Members JC2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, nylonRigging said: I dont run a Juki 1181, but I do run Juki double needles . but I would not hesitate for second to run a du1181 for full-time setup, it is a sound machine . My daily workhorse is a consew walker and bernina 217 setup in 2 station that I jump on the most everyday, but I run 6 other stations with singers, artisan, mitsubishi . also a serger head put up on the shelf that comes in handy once in a while . I been through a LOT of machines but my personal sew workspace is tightly limited to right at 7 to 8 sew stations at one-time, with keeping 2 cutting tables and shelved material and fabrics ..etc . New & Used .. Keep in mind also that the Consew rb206 is a BIG seller for a everyday workhorse and have huge following for a good reason . I see them used all over the place, with a good buys popping up regularly . And new heads under 1-K and full table setups starting in around the 1200-$ range . Also what ( dikman ) say's . ( For good used ) buy, If you run into one, I would not hesitate to setup a used 111 or 211 Singer . They are still to this day a Great machine . I see them popup for sale around here in the NW area and I really not looking for one, and I sure you can catch them around your area down south in CA. if you keep your eyeout for them because they are out there in huge numbers still being used . . edit add: you also asked on the one Post about shipping a machine . ..." I am in northern california so I would need it shipped. I wonder which shipping carrier they use ". When you have anyone ship a machine to you from anywhere in the US, normally truck shipping will not deliver to a residence and only business, and the driver and truck don't normally have a forklift to remove a large package anyway. So what happens is that whoever the person shipping is using for there carrier . a machine will be trucked to a local carrier terminal that the carrier is associated with in your town or a town close by . Then you just drive over and sign for it and pick your machine up there . . Ah yeah that delivery style is going to be a problem for me so I'll have to look into seeing if they can deliver it to my address. I see tons selling as "head only" which would mean having to get a table, motor + other parts I imagine? I wonder how wide and heavy these machines are. Needed a fork lift sounds intense.... Edited May 20, 2019 by JC2019 Quote
Members dikman Posted May 20, 2019 Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Head only - most of the machines I mentioned (and the Pfaff 335) are heavy but can be lifted by the average person. You're not going to carry them too far, but they are manageable. Shipping can be an issue, as if you're buying privately you want to be sure they are packed well, sewing machine heads generally don't take kindly to being dropped or bounced around! Most people don't know how to securely pack a head unit. Edited May 20, 2019 by dikman Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members JC2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) How about this thing @RockyAussie and @nylonRigging ? FISTERS Hand Machine Cobbler Shoe Repair Machine Dual Cotton Nylon Line Sewing Machine Maybe a good stop gap until I want to spend 2k-3k? Or will it be so awful it's not worth the $115ish? Edited May 20, 2019 by JC2019 Quote
Members dikman Posted May 20, 2019 Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 NO! Nothing wrong with them, for what they are, but I doubt if it will be suitable for what you want to do. It's not intended to be a production machine, its main use is as a repair/patcher. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members JC2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, dikman said: NO! Nothing wrong with them, for what they are, but I doubt if it will be suitable for what you want to do. It's not intended to be a production machine, its main use is as a repair/patcher. I see. So what's the difference? Will they just produce an ugly stitch? Take too much work? I am seeing a Singer 29k also mentioned which seems to go for quite a bit more. Edited May 20, 2019 by JC2019 Quote
RockyAussie Posted May 20, 2019 Report Posted May 20, 2019 They both have 1 advantage in that they can sew in any direction (360 degrees) but the feed is only achieved by the top foot grabbing and pulling the job along. This can be a problem for getting uneven length stitches and foot teeth marks and sometimes when sewing up the arm keeping the thread to the left or the right of where the needle goes into. It is worth having one but the money would be better saved and put toward a cylinder. In my experience looping tension problems can be hard to avoid as well. I have many years of experience using them and can get a pretty good result but that only comes with years of practice that you get from sewing inside shoes and following the same holes etc. Quote Wild Harry - Australian made leather goodsYouTube Channel Instagram
Members JC2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 10 hours ago, RockyAussie said: They both have 1 advantage in that they can sew in any direction (360 degrees) but the feed is only achieved by the top foot grabbing and pulling the job along. This can be a problem for getting uneven length stitches and foot teeth marks and sometimes when sewing up the arm keeping the thread to the left or the right of where the needle goes into. It is worth having one but the money would be better saved and put toward a cylinder. In my experience looping tension problems can be hard to avoid as well. I have many years of experience using them and can get a pretty good result but that only comes with years of practice that you get from sewing inside shoes and following the same holes etc. I see, what is this manual machine good for? Making shoes? Or mainly repairing them? Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted May 20, 2019 Moderator Report Posted May 20, 2019 What we refer to as patchers are shoe REPAIR machines. They are also great for sewing embroidered patches over pockets and sleeves, and for fixing torn or loose strap tabs on the sides of purses. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members dikman Posted May 20, 2019 Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 In other words they can be a handy machine to have, but not as your main machine. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members davemac2 Posted May 20, 2019 Members Report Posted May 20, 2019 JC2019, if you are in the Sac or Bay area, there are a few decent used machines on the market. examples: https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/d/roseville-consew-227-sewing-machine/6892644382.html https://sacramento.craigslist.org/for/d/carmichael-tacsew-t111-industrial/6890120621.html https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/for/d/rohnert-park-consew-industrial-walking/6893547783.html https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/d/san-jose-walking-foot-industrial-sewing/6892821480.html https://offerup.com/item/detail/643878972/ https://offerup.com/item/detail/664448029/ Quote
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