Members shoepatcher Posted September 14, 2019 Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 Nice C. No kind of thread guide on the needle clamp? glenn Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted September 14, 2019 Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 C, Did you try a system 81 needle in the machine. Little longer than a 135x17 needle. glenn Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Right, thread guide on clamp is missing - I think it' s broken off. It´s present on the pictures in my 1st post. Will check if I have a replacement. 135x17 works 81 is longer as you said. I just have checked the Sys. 81 needles I have. I will stick to 135x17. Pretty long stitch length for this machine class I´d say. It comes close to 6mm EDIT: Thread guide replaced - thanks for the hint. Edited September 14, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Cleaned everything, removed all the gunk and dirt crust from the parts.... I washed off everything (inside and outside) with hot a washing soda solution - that worked very well. See first 3 pictures. Clean / fresh solution, then with the added parts after a few minutes and the last pic shows the dirty solution - thats just from the parts shown in the following post. I filled the ugly big paint chip with epoxy (see pics in 1st post). Someone put an 2nd odd pin on the ridge and thats why the paint chipped there - its not lined up with he "original" pin to the right and I think its bubba'ed . For those who do not like my grayish silver paint jobs I decided to keep it black this time and I kept the original decal on the backside. Front decal was mainly worn off so not worth keeping the remains I think. Put some clear black paint coat on so it looks a bit more even now. I still have some original Singer decals so maybe I´ll try to add one of them on the front side.... Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Parts removed and parts cleaned Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) few more... Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members dikman Posted September 17, 2019 Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 Looking nice. You're getting pretty good at this. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
mikesc Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Looking pretty, although some may find the pics of completely disassembled sewing machine "innards" somewhat traumatic..;)..Reminds me of some old VW air-cooled manual pages from the 60s and 70s. Or old Giles cartoons from the same period. btw..looking at the 3rd pic your 1st post in that group..your machine's creatine levels may be a bit high ;) Nothing at all against the grey..your grey machines look quite "distinguished"..drab green I would not be so keen on were you to "experiment", but then given what you sew.. Agree with dikman..you are definitely getting good at this :) Edited September 17, 2019 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members Scoutmom103 Posted September 17, 2019 Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Constabulary said: Cleaned everything, removed all the gunk and dirt crust from the parts.... I washed off everything (inside and outside) with hot a washing soda solution - that worked very well. See first 3 pictures. Clean / fresh solution, then with the added parts after a few minutes and the last pic shows the dirty solution - thats just from the parts shown in the following post. Very nice. Looking good. Do you mind sharing what the hot "washing soda solution" consists of? It did a very nice job cleaning up some very gummed up parts. Thanks Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 Thanks a lot! I know it´s not everybody cup of tea what I´m doing and how I doing it but my aim always is haveing a machine I like to look at and I like to work with. I do not like to look at and work with filthy looking machines. 30 minutes ago, Scoutmom103 said: Very nice. Looking good. Do you mind sharing what the hot "washing soda solution" consists of? It did a very nice job cleaning up some very gummed up parts. Thanks Well just 60°C water and some washing soda - nothing else. I just pour in the washing soda "by feeling" (rather too much than too less). It really removes a lot of gunk! But be careful with the decals it may damage the decals. Different brushes are helpful and Scotch Brite scroub sponges and metal sponges will remove the very sticky gunk. 39 minutes ago, mikesc said: Looking pretty, although some may find the pics of completely disassembled sewing machine "innards" somewhat traumatic..;)..Reminds me of some old VW air-cooled manual pages from the 60s and 70s. Or old Giles cartoons from the same period. btw..looking at the 3rd pic your 1st post in that group..your machine's creatine levels may be a bit high Nothing at all against the grey..your grey machines look quite "distinguished"..drab green I would not be so keen on were you to "experiment", but then given what you sew.. Agree with dikman..you are definitely getting good at this I do not take apart the machine copletely - always just as much as necessary. Especially when parts are pinned I do not touch them as long as they are not badly worn. What you mean with creatine level? Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
mikesc Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 The 3rd solution ( picture in that post ) looks like a "sample" from an animal with kidney problems : )..Hence "creatine levels may be a bit high".. Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members Constabulary Posted September 17, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) few more close up´s in it´s "natural environment" - I like the 1st picture with the nice SIMANCO stamps. Kinda starting to like this old sucker Edited September 17, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jimi Posted September 17, 2019 Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Constabulary said: For those who do not like my grayish silver paint jobs I decided to keep it black this time Hey Folker, you do a very good job on your machines and even the silver ones look great! Anyway you will have to use up all that silver paint before it dries up... Quote
Members jimi Posted September 17, 2019 Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 Great job Folker, looks very very nice, and i would give that a 9/10 for a preservation/restoration job, you just need that decal for it to be a 10/10 just kidding......10/10 Quote
Members dikman Posted September 17, 2019 Members Report Posted September 17, 2019 Damn, that looks nice! Jimi's right, it definitely needs a decal of some sort on the front, now that it's all clean it looks a bit....bland. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
mikesc Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) That is now one pretty clean machine there..yep..another vote for the decal on the front.. :) Edited September 18, 2019 by mikesc syntax Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members Constabulary Posted September 18, 2019 Author Members Report Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) it for sure will get a decal - who do you think I'am? NB thread guide is back on too - found a couple of NOS guides. Did some testing yesterday - max. material thickness it can handle is 6.5mm - 7mm then the jump foot stops working but it still sews. But you cannot block the jump foot to stay static (as on Adler 4 / 5 machine) so practically this thickness is the max.. Maybe I can tweak it a bit more but I doubt! Edited September 18, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted September 18, 2019 Moderator Report Posted September 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Constabulary said: it for sure will get a decal - who do you think I'am? NB thread guide is back on too - found a couple of NOS guides. Did some testing yesterday - max. material thickness it can handle is 6.5mm - 7mm then the jump foot stops working but it still sews. But you cannot block the jump foot to stay static (as on Adler 4 / 5 machine) so practically this thickness is the max.. Maybe I can tweak it a bit more but I doubt! I have a 1920s Singer 42-5 and no matter what I do it cannot sew more than 5/16 inch, which is about 8mm. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members shoepatcher Posted September 27, 2019 Members Report Posted September 27, 2019 Great job as usual C! glenn Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 19, 2020 Author Members Report Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Investigation went on and I figured some interesting details on this old work horse. I´m not into domestic machines but the long beak shuttle hook seems to be the same as for the early Singer Class 15 machines. How do I know? It happens thats I´m studying old manual parts lists and catalogues to find cross use of parts (if you know what I mean) and a while ago I found an old 1940´s parts catalogue from a German aftermarket parts mfg and by the Lord - they have parts of this particular Class 16 jump foot machine in their catalogue Now that really surprised me! Edited January 19, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted January 19, 2020 Author Members Report Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) some more. Interesting the hint "Bei Bestellung bitte Muster senden" - thats means: "Send in the original parts when ordering spares". So that makes me think that only a few of these parts (or 16KSV11 machines) were made but have not been mass produced - AND - I guess the company who is seeling these "special parts" probably made these parts for Singer and most likely only for the Singer factory in Witternberge, Germany. Remember - I found this machine approx 30km west of the former Singer factory in Wittenberge! I also guess this particular SV machine COULD have been produced or modified exclusively in the Singer Wittenberge factory. This of course is just my wild guess but it could well be. But I don´t know. Edited January 19, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted June 16, 2020 Author Members Report Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) A few month ago I applied one of the original Singer decals I discovered once. LW member EVO160K did this on his Singer 45K too and I tried this the first time. Turned out quite well. The glue (MICROSCLAE MI-8) remains do not look as bad as on the picture, the flash makes it look "not so nice" but in real life it looks better. I could scrape it off but I leave it as is. Edited June 16, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted June 16, 2020 Members Report Posted June 16, 2020 It’s always a pleasure to read (and reread) your machine building threads. I have some decals for a Singer 221 ( the featherweight/light? model) I have resurrected from an up cycler’s silver paint job, but I haven’t had the nerve to tackle the decals yet. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Constabulary Posted June 16, 2020 Author Members Report Posted June 16, 2020 Thank you I wish more members would post pictures of their vintage machines here. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted June 16, 2020 Members Report Posted June 16, 2020 I think I’d have to get round to dusting mine before posting any pictures. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
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