Members billybopp Posted January 3, 2020 Members Report Posted January 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: Pretty good video showing the proper sewing techniques but I'm still not buying one lol, the takeaway for me = hole size affects the looks of the stitch dramatically , finishing the stitch work with final seating of the stitch via hammer is important to a good looking stitch. I agree I think with a heavier thread the slant would be more natural looking on both sides, the side with the bigger holes was to big for the thread size while the other was marginal. Is there a rule of thumb for thread size compared to hole size? Sadly, there is not set rule of thumb for thread/needle/hole size that I've ever come across, other than the bigger the hole the bigger the needle and thread. And yes, there is an interplay of hole size, slant angle, thickness, thread size & thickness, and sewing technique. There's a lot going on in something that seems so simple. It is also worth noting that not all irons/chisels and awls are created equal! They need to suit your technique OR your technique needs to change to suit them. - Bill Quote
Members Tugadude Posted January 3, 2020 Members Report Posted January 3, 2020 I would say that for the irons he was demonstrating that a 0.8mm would be appropriate. Nigel Armitage does publish his opinions on thread sizing for the various sized pricking irons and stitching chisels. He actually test drove them and compared them with thread sizes. He has all of the major brands covered at this point. Quote
CFM Hardrada Posted January 3, 2020 CFM Report Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: Pretty good video showing the proper sewing techniques but I'm still not buying one lol, the takeaway for me = hole size affects the looks of the stitch dramatically , finishing the stitch work with final seating of the stitch via hammer is important to a good looking stitch. I agree I think with a heavier thread the slant would be more natural looking on both sides, the side with the bigger holes was to big for the thread size while the other was marginal. Is there a rule of thumb for thread size compared to hole size? Interesting, as I've been contemplating buying irons such as those, except that I've been looking at the KS Blade ones. S'possedly the European style of hole is better for small items which use thin thread—maybe I should order the Seiwa European irons to try it out first—but then that's buying twice. Decisions, decisions. I stitch my pouches with Tiger 0.6 mm. I don't dislike the diamond irons, but there's no reverse diamond irons to be found anywhere it seems. This are the guidelines I've been using for thread/stitching: https://www.ianatkinson.net/leather/leatherguide.htm#thread It's not gospel, but I've found it appropriate. I only use 9 spi and 6.5 spi irons, with Tiger 0.6 mm and 0.8 mm respectively. Edited January 3, 2020 by Hardrada Addenda Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 3, 2020 CFM Report Posted January 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hardrada said: https://www.ianatkinson.net/leather/leatherguide.htm#thread It's not gospel, but I've found it appropriate. I only use 9 spi and 6.5 spi irons, with Tiger 0.6 mm and 0.8 mm respectively. Great info there! Thanks Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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