Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 12, 2020 Moderator Report Posted March 12, 2020 16 hours ago, toxo said: how do the two motions work and how much difference does it make Matt described how a 2 motion feed dog works. What he left out is that the reason some of these machines have a 2 motion feed dog is because they are intended to be used with synchronized binder attachments. The forward backward motion helps push the material into the edge binding to get a tighter lay, especially going around curves. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
toxo Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Posted March 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: Matt described how a 2 motion feed dog works. What he left out is that the reason some of these machines have a 2 motion feed dog is because they are intended to be used with synchronized binder attachments. The forward backward motion helps push the material into the edge binding to get a tighter lay, especially going around curves. Thanks Wiz. How would you know which machine uses which and in practical terms how much difference does it make? Is it simply a case of a machine that was built for binding and altered later in which case would the clue be in the model number? You know - and I'm looking at you Wiz for reasons obvious to most of us on here, It would be a fantastic resource to have a list of different name/same machines/clones along with a comparable spec list for each. Don't know how difficult that would be but I know there are people on here that already have most of these answers and it would be tremendously useful to those of us who don't. Quote
toxo Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Posted March 12, 2020 OK guys. I think it has to be the Tysew 3600C-1 I've discounted the CB and the Techsew for price or availability in the UK. Spec wise the Tysew looks good in all departments. I'm waiting for a call back and they've asked me to bring samples so they must be confident and it's only the other side of London for me. I say "only" it's a murderous journey if you don't time it right and if all's well I can bring it home. They have a similar model that they call EDGE. It has an edge guide apparently. Don't know how it works but they want another £400 for it. https://www.tysew.co.uk/industrial-sewing-machines/cylinder-arm/tysew-ty-3600c-1-cylinder-arm-walking-foot-needle-feed?search=cylinder arm Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 12, 2020 Moderator Report Posted March 12, 2020 Here is a video showing a synchronized binder in action on a properly setup machine. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members chrisash Posted March 12, 2020 Members Report Posted March 12, 2020 With all the potential companies with cash flow problems at the moment, I guess they may be open for discounting if asked, a little pressure on a new machine may go a long way Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
toxo Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: Here is a video showing a synchronized binder in action on a properly setup machine. I'd like to meet the people who come up with these ideas. A working work of art. Quote
toxo Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, chrisash said: With all the potential companies with cash flow problems at the moment, I guess they may be open for discounting if asked, a little pressure on a new machine may go a long way He's already rounded it down to £1200 over the phone and I haven't started yet. He wants to "upgrade me" to the latest model which has "direct drive with the motor inside the head which is a lot more money but he'll do it for the same price". I said thanks but no thanks but when I do visit he have one of each set up. I keep expecting someone to throw a "but" at me. The specs for this machine beat most of the others. Quote
mikesc Posted March 12, 2020 Report Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Direct drives ( where "the motor is one with the head" ) are "interesting"..until they go wrong..Then they can cost you more than the machine did originally just to get them repaired..and you'd better hope that the dealer has all the spares to hand..which they will not. Eric ( @gottaknow ) has more experience than anyone with them than anyone else that I can think of that is a member here. Edited March 12, 2020 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
toxo Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Posted March 12, 2020 Is why I would never buy a printer/scanner/copier etc. So..... You stingy lot, if no one is going to throw a "But" into me, can someone tell me it' looks like a good machine and i'm doing the right thing? Quote
mikesc Posted March 12, 2020 Report Posted March 12, 2020 Like I said..don't know them..take some leather ( thicker than you think you'll need to sew in the next 12 months or so ) and test it..not the direct drive one..Agree with Brian.."very vague spec"..Is that a "But" enough ? :) Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
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