New member from the UK

[toxo]

1 hour ago, zuludog said:

....but it was rolled up round a chair leg.

[toxo]

On 7/21/2020 at 9:48 AM, Raindog951 said:

       Now I want to get away from Saps and into bags, wallets and belts. Currently pondering various patterns and template materials, and saving some money for a big lump of Veg Tanned :-)

 

Many on here know that I like Dieselpunk.Ro (Tony See) and I'll tell you why. I have no affiliation to the guy whatsoever, I just like the way he goes about things and he has a tremendous understated sense of humourand my attraction to his world is strange when you consider that I have two sewing machines and I very much want to use them and yet all of Tony's designs are for hand stitching. He has created a great facebook page with interaction from everyone and if you ask him a question he usually answers in minutes not hours. (And I detest F/B but I always check it now)

His designs are not for everyone but I'd be surprised if you don't find something in his portfolio. His prices are reasonable and he gives away many freebies to his followers.

The whole process is easy and every project is accompanied by a YouTube video that covers everything from the printout to the last stitch.

The purists won't like that he uses hole punches rather than stitching chisels but there's nothing stopping you if that's the way you want to go. 

I always print out on cardstock and after using for the first time you have a ready made template and whats more, the second go around is so much quicker because the punch just falls into the holes.

This is the first leather project of any kind that I did using the Motoko 3 pattern. It took me a while but there was nothing difficult in it. I won't put up a link. He should be easy enough to find but pm me if you can't.

[Raindog951]

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Saw these for sale today for 40 dollars Canadian each. I say make em and sell! get some of that wholesome cash...This hobby is like a drug and you're gonna need a way to fund your new habit

@kiwican  True! Once I get some more leather I might make a few 'Coin Purse' types. Much more legal than the finished and lead filled Cosh.....

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ps on sale on Wish and etsy at £5.0 thought of buying or making one as a good way to carry small change, but my coshing or saping days are over with old age

@chrisash  It's never too late Chris! Treat it as exercise. Bash the postman every morning till you get the hang of it. I know what you mean, though. I'd probably put my back out if I swung a Cosh at anyone. I use a stick to get around, a nice Blackthorn. That's probably enough to deter any muggers.

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For template material I use artist's/photographer's mounting board; from The Range or your local art store; could also use breakfast cereal packets

I use cereal packets to make mock - ups of items, to get an idea of what the final article will look like; sequence of construction, and so on

Do you know there is a British knife making & collecting forum? www.edgematters.uk It is subscription but it's only £5 pa via Paypal, which is more of a screening for serious users really

Speaking of cosh's years ago a friend was a steward/marshal at events like rock music festivals, football matches, and so on. He used to keep the crowd in order with a rolled up newspaper.......but it was rolled up round a chair leg. 

@zuludog Thanks for the tips, zuludog! That mounting card is good stuff, and the art shop down the road sells packs of 10 or so for a pound. I'll check out edgematters, always interested in forums on knives. Love that newspaper trick......Reminds me of the quote from Hitch Hikers Guide "Drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster is like being smashed in the head with a slice of lemon......Wrapped around a large Gold Brick".

@toxo Yes! I like a lot of Dieselpunk.Ro's stuff. I intend to get some of his patterns, including that handsome Motoko 3 bag. I shocked it was your first project!  That's amazing! And very encouraging. I got myself a bunch of hole punches a week or two back. The smallest is pretty tiny. I'm sure I could use that method without weakening the bag structure. VERY excited now. If I can make that bag I'll put pics up.

     Thanks everyone! Very eager to get some sewing done :-)  

[zuludog]

I know we're getting off topic, but I thought i'd tell you a snippet about my friend with the newspaper

He only did his stewarding at weekends. his normal day job was a primary school teacher

[fredk]

9 hours ago, zuludog said:

Speaking of cosh's years ago a friend was a steward/marshal at events like rock music festivals, football matches, and so on. He used to keep the crowd in order with a rolled up newspaper.......but it was rolled up round a chair leg.

I used to use a newspaper wrapped around a piece of lead pipe to tap on the heads of  'nice doggies', who weren't, when I was a postie. A few taps now and then, nowt too hard, and the dogs got the message. 

I use cereal boxes as well for patterns. Sometimes I print a pdf pattern out on thin card from Hobbycraft or £world, and if necessary paste it with Copydex to cereal box card to thicken it up.

I use a walking stick with a large brass knob grip on it. Without actually having to use it its seen off a few trouble makers and made a few others change their minds. I let them know about the brass knob just by dropping the stick on the floor and as I pick it up I tap the floor a couple of times. They get the message.

I have a couple of Dieselpunks patterns. He does a good instructional video to go with them too

[Raindog951]

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I know we're getting off topic, but I thought i'd tell you a snippet about my friend with the newspaper

He only did his stewarding at weekends. his normal day job was a primary school teacher

Hi @zuludog I could have done with the Chairleg man at my school.....He'd sort out the nastier kids....And the nastier teachers.....

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I used to use a newspaper wrapped around a piece of lead pipe to tap on the heads of  'nice doggies', who weren't, when I was a postie. A few taps now and then, nowt too hard, and the dogs got the message. 

I use cereal boxes as well for patterns. Sometimes I print a pdf pattern out on thin card from Hobbycraft or £world, and if necessary paste it with Copydex to cereal box card to thicken it up.

I use a walking stick with a large brass knob grip on it. Without actually having to use it its seen off a few trouble makers and made a few others change their minds. I let them know about the brass knob just by dropping the stick on the floor and as I pick it up I tap the floor a couple of times. They get the message.

I have a couple of Dieselpunks patterns. He does a good instructional video to go with them too.

 

Hi @fredk, Great bit of psychology with the Brass knob. Kept you out of trouble without getting you IN trouble.

I bought some patterns off Dieselpunk yesterday. Got the Moloko 3 bag,  a tobacco pouch and pipe stand, and a simple Bifold wallet.

  Downloaded the videos, now just need to buy some leather. I might practice the wallet and tobacco pouch using a bunch of Chrome leather I have. Probably stick a couple of layers of thin Chrome together to give it some body. It'll take me some time to afford the veg tan for the bag.

 

 

[fredk]

I made some baccy pouches out of chrome tan upholstery type leather. The one thing I'd do different is to either line them with some sort of thin plasticy material or give the inside of the leather a real good coating of beeswax. I found out that the leather dries the baccy too much. Apparently there should be a bit of moisture in pipe baccy and ceegaars. If either is too dry they don't smoke at all well and just burn like tinder

[Raindog951]

Hi @fredk! Yes, that's a problem. A lot of pouches are made to fit the plastic pouches that some Baccy comes in. It might be an idea to actually line the leather pouch with an actual plastic tobacco pouch......Maybe glue it in, then sew around the edges. The pouches from dieselpunk seem to be big affairs, that hold pipes and tools, and a separate pouch of Baccy. My mate at work actually spent £25 for a pouch made from upholstery leather, complete with unfinished edges. I knew it was Upholstery leather because it was exactly the same leather as one of my sheets bought off Ebay. My immediate thought was 'That's a big profit margin'. I got ten sheets off ebay for about £12. Each sheet would make one pouch. Ten pouches sold on ebay.....£250.....

[fredk]

I was thinking of this sort of material (below) and just glueing it to the leather,  or use a bit of old shower curtain. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Waterproof-3-8oz-Rip-Stop-Ripstop-Fabric-Kite-Nylon-Material-Cover-15-Colours/332401505545?var=541417739341

I sewed the pouches inside-out, then turned them so the seams and edges were neat. It doesn't need to be water-tight.

There are two schools; one lot don't like the plastic pouch and want their baccy in the leather one only, the other group are happy that their plastic bag fits into the pouch. but both want a pocket for a lighter and the ciggie rollers want a pocket for the papers, and their rolling machine, and the . . . .

btw, I used plastic snaps on the pouches.

these;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/440pcs-Kam-Snaps-T5-Size-20-Button-Stud-Closures-Snap-Fasteners-in-22-Colours/123259119619?hash=item1cb2d0e803:g:PEcAAOSwKUVbUDhc

Light weight and good for lightweight item like the pouches and small coin purses, but only on thin leather, up to about 1.2mm

[Frodo]

On 7/21/2020 at 8:04 AM, Raindog951 said:

Hi @kiwican ! Thanks for the welcome. I used lead shot, of VERY tiny size (pinhead sized) mixed with evostick contact cement. Filled up each moulded hollow and let it set, then glued the two halves together.

 

Hi @toxo ! You're right. Illegal to carry outdoors, and MAYBE legal if kept indoors. I'm currently searching the internet to confirm I'm Ok having it at home. If not, then sadly I'll have to remove the lead shot and make it a Coin purse :-) !! You've done a great job on that purse. It looks like it holds enough coins to stun an Ox!

welcome here from over there  

 

Here in the US  the sap is also illegal, But we being some krafty  kind of guys came up with a loop hole

Attach a key to the sap and it is no longer a sap it is a key fob  and key fobs are legal 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Frodo