MtlBiker Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Posted December 8, 2020 19 hours ago, Pintodeluxe said: These will fit... currently listed on eBay for $2.78 each. Get the 45mm one (1.77") 38" belt. 39" belt may work, but 38" belt for sure. Thanks! Just ordered a 45mm pulley. For the low price I guess I can't go wrong, but delivery is stated to be between Dec 31st and MARCH 5th!!! Gonna be a long wait. If I can find something locally, even if double or triple the price, I'm going to get it. And I guess there's nothing special about the belt? Just the length? Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted December 8, 2020 Moderator Report Posted December 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, MtlBiker said: Thanks! Just ordered a 45mm pulley. For the low price I guess I can't go wrong, but delivery is stated to be between Dec 31st and MARCH 5th!!! Gonna be a long wait. If I can find something locally, even if double or triple the price, I'm going to get it. And I guess there's nothing special about the belt? Just the length? OMG! It sounds like you live in a Banana Republic. Or, is the dealer out of stock and waiting for a slow boat from China? Did you ask Techsew for a pulley and belt? Those are very common items. The belt is type 3L, which is 3/8 inch across the top. In Metric that is about 10 millimeters. It is the same material as an automobile belt, but narrower. They are heat welded to various lengths. The length is marked on the belt. It may be in Metric (M something), or inches (42, 43, etc). I find I use mostly 40, 41 or 42 inch 3L v-belts on my direct to machine motors. Otherwise, check the yellow pages in Toronto for "industrial sewing machines." Check eBay too. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
MtlBiker Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Posted December 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said: OMG! It sounds like you live in a Banana Republic. Or, is the dealer out of stock and waiting for a slow boat from China? Did you ask Techsew for a pulley and belt? Those are very common items. The belt is type 3L, which is 3/8 inch across the top. In Metric that is about 10 millimeters. It is the same material as an automobile belt, but narrower. They are heat welded to various lengths. The length is marked on the belt. It may be in Metric (M something), or inches (42, 43, etc). I find I use mostly 40, 41 or 42 inch 3L v-belts on my direct to machine motors. Otherwise, check the yellow pages in Toronto for "industrial sewing machines." Check eBay too. Not a banana republic, but as per the suggestions here, I ordered from eBay. And the product is coming on a slow boat from China. I've left a message for Ron at Techsew for him to call me but he hasn't yet. I planned to ask him if he had the pulley I want. And on their site they have a very reasonable price (I think) for a speed reducer, but it's listed as out of stock. I'm just not sure about the fitting of the speed reducer as there are no pre-drilled holes for it on my table and it looks like there might not be enough room between the existing servo motor and the machine itself to fit the reducer there. (Guessing that by looking at the speed reducer on my 2750.) So a smaller pulley might be all I need for that machine and it would be the easiest solution. If I need to sew slower than that I would just use the 2750. (It's really nice!) "Yellow Pages"???? Is that something that existed before the Internet? I think I've heard of it. I'm also waiting for my Consew dealer to get in... seems he has even less than banker's hours. He must have something that would work. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
MtlBiker Posted December 8, 2020 Author Report Posted December 8, 2020 Just spoke with my Consew dealer, who is supposedly the Consew distributor for Eastern Canada. I must say, I was less than impressed. He said he's never heard of anyone wanting to slow down the 206RB-5 and he also said that you cannot change the motor pulley. Then he said if you change it, the motor doesn't understand it and it won't work. SIGH I also asked him about the machine not sewing if the speed knob is set to 350 (lowest marked click stop) and he didn't know. But he has promised to test out another machine he has there and let me know. But from the way he responded, they don't have a speed reducer nor smaller pulley, nor have they ever had a request to slow the machine down. Less than impressed with him/them. If I'm not mistaken, even Consew sells a 45mm pulley for this. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
kgg Posted December 8, 2020 Report Posted December 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: OMG! It sounds like you live in a Banana Republic. I sometimes wonder there seems to be no rime or reason to it when ordering stuff, I guess it depends on where you are. I ordered a small fan, weighted about an ounce, for a rebuild on a 3d printer that was in stock from a Montreal dealer and at the same time ordered a new Mosquito hotend and extruder from Bontech out of Sweden. Guess what it took 6 days to get from Sweden and 10 days from Montreal. Ordered a 1 lb spool of V138 thread and a 100 meter coil of edging from American & Efird Canada Inc. in Toronto today and will it be here tomorrow if not Thursday at the latest. I am about 3.5 hours drive from either Montreal or Toronto. Go figure. Stay Safe, kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted December 9, 2020 Moderator Report Posted December 9, 2020 There used to be a dealer named Toronto Industrial Sewing Machines. I lived there for a while and bought many industrial sewing machines, parts and accessories from them. I can't recall ever hearing "we don't have that," or "you can't do that on your motor." Maybe they moved and have a new business name??? Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members dikman Posted December 9, 2020 Members Report Posted December 9, 2020 13 hours ago, MtlBiker said: He said he's never heard of anyone wanting to slow down the 206RB-5 and he also said that you cannot change the motor pulley. Then he said if you change it, the motor doesn't understand it and it won't work. I would give this guy a wide berth!! He has no idea what he's talking about. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
MtlBiker Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/6/2020 at 5:14 PM, Wizcrafts said: It looks like your motor pulley is at least 70mm diameter. I would purchase a 50mm pulley and a shorter belt to match. Dealers that sell Consew and Family Sew motors should have these items in stock. Just wanted to thank you again for your great advice and to let you know how it worked out. (And @dikman too.) My existing pulley was 75mm (stamped on it) and I replaced it with a 45mm pulley and a 38" belt. I'm thrilled with the result! Not as slow as my new Techsew 2750 Pro with speed reducer, but a lot slower than it was before and it's slow enough for me now. I won't have to add a speed reducer to that machine. And to give proper kudos to my dealer, who I first was disappointed with when he said he'd never heard of anyone changing the pulley on that machine and that if I did it the machine wouldn't work. He actually had his shop guys try it and he was kind enough to report to me that it worked well. And he said he was willing to send his guy to me to do the installation. For free! I didn't take him up on that offer because I live close to an hour away from him and that would have cost him too much money. And I'm reasonably mechanically inclined so I went to him with the old belt and pulley and he wanted to just swap it out for me as a straight exchange. I didn't want that, because I thought it would be nice to be able to return the machine back to stock if needed, so he charged me $15 (Canadian!) for the new pulley and belt. He scored points with me for all that. Cheers! Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members dikman Posted December 15, 2020 Members Report Posted December 15, 2020 Nice to think that dealer was open enough to try out something he hadn't heard of, although I'm surprised he'd never heard of it before. And was prepared to help out. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Gregg From Keystone Sewing Posted December 16, 2020 Members Report Posted December 16, 2020 On a side note...looks like I found a new supplier for 50mm pulleys. I pay A LOT more than that right now for a cast aluminum pulley of this type. Quote Industrial sewing and cutting, parts sales and service, family owned since 1977, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA, 215/922.6900 info@keysew.com www.keysew.com
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