Members William Greene Posted March 17, 2021 Members Report Posted March 17, 2021 I have a used 211G156 I bought from an upholsterer. Timing was off (would not pick up bobbin thread) Had it repaired not once but now twice. Works well in repair shop but when it gets to my shop...sews a few stitches and then not picking up bobbin thread again. Help please. Driving me nuts. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted March 17, 2021 Members Report Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Check the thread path make sure needle is insert correctly and is threaded from left to right. Make sure you pulled the thread over the little hook in the tension unit disc. Make sure check spring is properly adjusted. I hope you have a manual for your machine. If not there is a mechanics handbook for the 211 - download it, print it can´t be wrong to have it near your machine: https://www.manualslib.de/download/89333/Singer-211G-165.html Edited March 17, 2021 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members William Greene Posted March 17, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 17, 2021 Thanks very much for your speedy answer. I have checked and re-checked all that you have mentioned. I also read that I should probably change out the clutch motor for a servo motor. I don't need the speed of the current motor. Thanks again! Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 17, 2021 Moderator Report Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, William Greene said: Thanks very much for your speedy answer. I have checked and re-checked all that you have mentioned. I also read that I should probably change out the clutch motor for a servo motor. I don't need the speed of the current motor. Thanks again! Make sure you buy a motor equipped with a 45 to 50mm pulley. The machine pulley is smaller than usual and needs all the help it can get to punch through veg-tan leather. It was designed to sew chrome tan upholstery leather. You may even need to buy a speed reducer. You can learn more on this page. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members William Greene Posted March 18, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 18, 2021 21 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: Make sure you buy a motor equipped with a 45 to 50mm pulley. The machine pulley is smaller than usual and needs all the help it can get to punch through veg-tan leather. It was designed to sew chrome tan upholstery leather. You may even need to buy a speed reducer. You can learn more on this page. Would b nice to know prices on said inventory. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 18, 2021 Moderator Report Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, William Greene said: Would b nice to know prices on said inventory. Open the motors page and look near the bottom of the blue sidebar. It plainly states $135.00 includes shipping in lower 48 states. The prices of the reducers is in the paragraphs on the right of the photo, where it says: "a new box type which we sell for $200 and a 3 pulley model SR-2, selling for $150." The layout of the page changes when you use a phone instead of a computer monitor. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members chrisash Posted March 18, 2021 Members Report Posted March 18, 2021 This video link shows the difference between the Brushless and brushed servo motors which may help you decide (6) Difference between "Brushless" and "Brushed" typed sewing machine servo motors (Remake) - YouTube Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members sandmanred Posted March 18, 2021 Members Report Posted March 18, 2021 There are some pretty good videos on youtube that show you how to time a machine. You should be able to find specifics to your machine in a manual for it. But I think the general points on a rotary hook are the same. You want the needle to lift a specific distance before the tip of the hook crosses the needle, and you want the hook to cross about in the middle of the scarf. And you want the hook to come as close to the needle as possible without touching. Here's one from @Uwe Even if you can't find the specifics for your machine it's not a big deal. I'd guess on your model you want to needle to lift about 2 mm or 3/32 at the time the hook crosses the needle. I've found the distances they spec to be a little difficult to measure and I will still sometimes deviate a bit to get it sew nicely in forward and reverse. I Quote Have Consew 255RB-3, Pfaff 545 H4, Chandler 217, Pfaff 138 and Merrow 60W. Had a Singer 132K6, Singer 78-3 Consew 28, Consew 18, Singer 31-15 and regret selling each and every one of them
DonInReno Posted March 19, 2021 Report Posted March 19, 2021 Even if the timing is correct, the gap between needle and point of hook needs to be as close as possible without actually touching. The needle guard shouldn’t be keeping the hook away from the proper needle gap - it’s literally designed to be bent in or out as need be. Quote
Members William Greene Posted March 19, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 19, 2021 14 hours ago, William Greene said: Would b nice to know prices on said inventory. I meant on your inventory of machines. Quote
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