Dog collars - always worked flat?

[Klara]

1 hour ago, Samalan said:

I really don't think the dog would feel the wrinkles in a collar, it's kind of like the princess and the pea.

That is a perfect description of Rika du Castel d'Enfer! 

But mainly I don't like the look of the wrinkles. 

[Samalan]

4 hours ago, Klara said:

That is a perfect description of Rika du Castel d'Enfer! 

But mainly I don't like the look of the wrinkles. 

lol Not sure what that means but I don't like the wrinkles either.

[Samalan]

4 hours ago, Klara said:

That is a perfect description of Rika du Castel d'Enfer! 

But mainly I don't like the look of the wrinkles. 

One thing Klara gluing in the round can cause the opposite reaction on the out side if you flatten it out or open it up to much so don't make it to tight it can cause compression on the outside good luck would like to see pics when it's done.

[Samalan]

13 minutes ago, Samalan said:

lol Not sure what that means but I don't like the wrinkles either.

OK  the Rika du castel d' enfer is a very fussy breed lol.

[benlilly1]

12 hours ago, Klara said:

Well, what does it look like on the inside when it is bent as around a dog's neck? While lying flat it looks good, see the laws of physics quoted above (isn't it rather geometry?)

 

Yes, I put foam inside the inner red leather as per instructions (and safety belt from a car wreck in the outer layer for solidity, my idea).

I have wondered about the necessity of padding, but for the moment I'm experimenting and learning, sometimes following instructions, sometimes not. Then I try the collars on my dog and we see what we like.

I think padding becomes most useful with rivets etc on the outer layer. Very soon I'll try a collar without any sort of padding, just to see what Rika thinks.

This is a 1" vegtan collar and I used Bison for the padding.  Not a concern for me, no one has complained of wrinkles.

[Klara]

True, I don't see any either. Is any padding under the bison or just the leather? (And did you do the camo pattern yourself?)

[benlilly1]

16 hours ago, benlilly1 said:

This is a 1" vegtan collar and I used Bison for the padding.  Not a concern for me, no one has complained of wrinkles.

I've noticed when you add padding it shortens up the length. So I add an extra hole an inch out. It just depends on how thick the padding is. Using the Bison, I did not add foam, being that it was thick enough without.

[chuck123wapati]

On 4/22/2021 at 5:43 AM, Klara said:

 

Exactly. Which is why I was surprised by the pro's work and asked the question in the first place.

But I suppose the explanation is that most dog collars are stored and sold flat. The wrinkles only form once on the dog and then they are invisibly on the inside... But martingale collars - the only type I am currently interested in - are always round anyway. At least until I find a way of adding a buckle without removin comfort or looks...

its dependent also on the types of leather you are sewing together. I make mine out of two layers of veg tan glued and sewn flat, glued up they become one with no wrinkles but really stiff. With padding and a lighter leather yes they will wrinkle. This is a collar of two layers of  8/9 oz veg tan as you can see no wrinkles.

Edited April 24, 2021 by chuck123wapati

[LeatherLegion]

8 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

 

I've been making dog collars for a long time...this is an interesting design that I've never seen before 

[chuck123wapati]

8 hours ago, LeatherLegion said:

I've been making dog collars for a long time...this is an interesting design that I've never seen before 

yes its a slip collar i have designed for my American bullies, they are big dogs that pull like heck. 6 months old and have 17" necks, made one for their mother too she has a neck 23".