Etsy update, prohibited items

[chuck123wapati]

3 minutes ago, fredk said:

On etsy

1. its a privately owned on-line shopping place. They can put in place any rules they like

2. Like so many other bricks n mortar and on-line places the wimps and idiots set the rules

exactly and why a person has the same right to use or not. i don't knock them their rights are the same as mine.

[Frodo]

37 minutes ago, fredk said:

On etsy

1. its a privately owned on-line shopping place. They can put in place any rules they like

2. Like so many other bricks n mortar and on-line places the wimps and idiots set the rules

TRUE,  Their house their rules

If you do not like the rules go to another venue. 

You can always try and outsmart the Bots

run an add on etsy that says

4 sale, large sheath for a Smith and Wesson 

Belt pouch for a python LOL LOL  

[Hardrada]

20 minutes ago, Frodo said:

You can always try and outsmart the Bots

Haha! Yeah, when I discussed this issue with a friend of mine he mentioned some of the descriptions some sellers are using to describe their gun paraphernalia on etsy. I won't mention them here so as to not give them away, but they were, shall we say, entertaining.

I decided against blockade running, though. I don't like to game the system nor live in tension I might be caught; and I also wonder if using the 'wrong' keywords also makes the items harder to find—unless you have a following, you'd want your stuff to be easily listed and found.

[Rahere]

I understand the need of a frontier culture breaking free from a Germanic dictatorship to create laws underwriting self-defence. But  you don't answer the question of selfishness we did, in the wake of the Dunblane massacre. You're not a frontier culture any more, facing serious threats from foreign forces on your soil. The "whereas" clauses explaining the context of the law no longer apply. Instead, you tell me "it's our culture". If I were to believe that, I'd have some extremely caustic comments about a culture willing to put up with chancing another Sandy Hook. Thankfully that's not universally true, but the old saying that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing certainly applies. The result is in the statistics, your nation competes with third-world States riddled by gang warfare. How sad to think that we cannot distinguish between good blokes under a delusion and criminals. You may go into it with the best will in the world, but the Good Book tells us to focus on our fruits, the actual product of our actions. Pious platitudes aren't enough, by your deeds you are known, be they deeds of commission or deeds of omission.

[Frodo]

You are correct, We are no longer a frontier country. that statement,  although true has nothing at all to do with the reason we are an armed society.

The 2nd Amendment made it into the Bill of Rights for a reason. Many Americans sincerely believed (and the basic idea precedes the Constitution by centuries) that the citizenry has the fundamental right to oppose a despotic government, by force of arms if necessary. To pretend otherwise--and that gun rights are merely a right to engage in recreation--is to buy into the cult of all-powerful, all-righteous state...an utterly dangerous and un-American notion.

 

[chuck123wapati]

55 minutes ago, Rahere said:

I understand the need of a frontier culture breaking free from a Germanic dictatorship to create laws underwriting self-defence. But  you don't answer the question of selfishness we did, in the wake of the Dunblane massacre. You're not a frontier culture any more, facing serious threats from foreign forces on your soil. The "whereas" clauses explaining the context of the law no longer apply. Instead, you tell me "it's our culture". If I were to believe that, I'd have some extremely caustic comments about a culture willing to put up with chancing another Sandy Hook. Thankfully that's not universally true, but the old saying that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing certainly applies. The result is in the statistics, your nation competes with third-world States riddled by gang warfare. How sad to think that we cannot distinguish between good blokes under a delusion and criminals. You may go into it with the best will in the world, but the Good Book tells us to focus on our fruits, the actual product of our actions. Pious platitudes aren't enough, by your deeds you are known, be they deeds of commission or deeds of omission.

 i love when folks try to ignore the reality of history sorry but anything you want to say is irrelevant because you wont answer up to the injustices of your country.    i say again "from an ex soldier of a country that throughout history has subjugated almost every other country on the planet by force and firearm"

"it's our culture" NO ITS OUR BILL OF RIGHTS. You have no idea what threats lay in the future and that sir is a fact.

[Rahere]

7 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

 i love when folks try to ignore the reality of history sorry but anything you want to say is irrelevant because you wont answer up to the injustices of your country.    i say again "from an ex soldier of a country that throughout history has subjugated almost every other country on the planet by force and firearm"

"it's our culture" NO ITS OUR BILL OF RIGHTS. You have no idea what threats lay in the future and that sir is a fact.

OK, the big hammer then. Right now, Robert Schumann, the founder of the operation I went on not only to work in, but to complete, is up for Sainthood in the Church. We already have a Nobel Peace Prize in 2012, for the reintegration of Europe, which I led on and actually got to make happen, myself being detailed off the welcome the First Secretaries and Defence Attachés of the Eastern European States, the first morning of the first step into full accession into Europe, with the Western European Union. I later completed Gandhi's work, tying up the loose end he was working on when he was assassinated, not as a personal initiative, but because the Nation concerned came to me and asked me to help, so I did, making something new, exactly as you make something new when you take a knife to leather, with an idea in mind, experience to make it happen, and the resources to deliver to hand. But you know what? It was lined up for me on high, only an utter idiot could miss. As the office boss Javier Solana said, so unexpected was it, "How on earth did that happen?" This is why Rome's scaling it up further, because the credit goes to the bloke on the cloud.

The essence of it is that, as Henry Ford said, history is bunk. It's not where you were, but where you're going. Living in the past, wallowing in partly-fabulated mythology passing as history, just leaves you repeating the same old mistakes. I'm not a redcoat with a stock driving my head up into the sky, an ill-educated horny-handed son of a plough. They tell me I may gave set the top bar for brains. My reply is I was made that way because it was the only way a human could cope with the Boss, 'im Upstairs, however you know him. I'm the worthy child of my parents, my dad left us with hip implant technology, the ISO Standard for Pressure Vessels used in nuclear reactors, and the coordination which saved thousands of lives at the start of this pandemic, turning idle manufacturing plant to produce medical ventilators in just four days. After succeeding with the ISO standard, he did exactly what you would have done, made a masterpiece to celebrate, firing up his forge and crafting the first Pressure Vessel Quality Advisory Board certification stamp. Mum was former SOE, a Resistance fighter in Belgium, who went on to work as PA to Krishna Mennon,  the Indian High Commissioner in London in 1946-7, during the Indian Independance talks. And that is why I have the authority to cite the Mahatma's reply when asked about Western Civilisation. He said it would be a good idea. Make it so.

What I did was nail Clausewitz' nonsense, that war is the continuation of policy by other means. Glib, certainly, but shortsighted. No war has gone on eternally. I'm actually an academic expert in the roots of the Enlightenment, and part of that is shaking out from the near-collapse of Europe in the wake of the Black Death. It's a lesson in power play I well understand as a former European Crisis Manager, the finance man in the CFSP State Department. I saved Albania in 1997, at the head of the team of economic experts who sorted the wreckage of the Ponzi scheme which wrecked their economy, and did the pathfinding for Malta's accession to Europe. Essentially, given all wars end in peace talks once they've exhausted their economies, why start? My own body, the Western European Union, was born from the team of Civil Servants sent in in the wake of the Allied Armies to sort that mess out in 1944. That turned into The Western European Defence Organisation, and spun NATO off.

So don't talk to me about future fears, please, you've over-egged the case. The UK's a generation since we disarmed our civil community, and is still producing the world's finest soldiers. Kids wandering around pretending to be a militia are just a joke, a sick one, admittedly, but none the less not to be taken seriously. I've spent 18 years as a top professional keeping the peace and have been personally recognised by the Heads of State, which is quite a story. I have the gongs. I'm fully certified both psychologically, by the Church of England, and Harley Street, as a seer medium, my weird having done its bit in full view of both the top medics and half the UK Government in 2015, accurately handling at four hours notice a major strategic issue, which from my side simply meant digging the study paper I'd started working on six months previously, knowing the question was coming my way. It may have caused the current fixation on geeks and misfits.

You may dismiss this as Mitty syndrome - I'd reply you're actually perpetrating Cassandra's Curse. These things don't just happen, people like me make them happen. What am I doing here? Because one essential prerequisite of having your head in the clouds is keeping your feet on the ground. As I demonstrated in the Mexican harness thread, I also spin and work in rope. And long may that continue.

Edited June 21, 2021 by Rahere

[PastorBob]

7 hours ago, Rahere said:

OK, the big hammer then. Right now, Robert Schumann, the founder of the operation I went on not only to work in, but to complete, is up for Sainthood in the Church. We already have a Nobel Peace Prize in 2012, for the reintegration of Europe, which I led on and actually got to make happen, myself being detailed off the welcome the First Secretaries and Defence Attachés of the Eastern European States, the first morning of the first step into full accession into Europe, with the Western European Union. I later completed Gandhi's work, tying up the loose end he was working on when he was assassinated, not as a personal initiative, but because the Nation concerned came to me and asked me to help, so I did, making something new, exactly as you make something new when you take a knife to leather, with an idea in mind, experience to make it happen, and the resources to deliver to hand. But you know what? It was lined up for me on high, only an utter idiot could miss. As the office boss Javier Solana said, so unexpected was it, "How on earth did that happen?" This is why Rome's scaling it up further, because the credit goes to the bloke on the cloud.

The essence of it is that, as Henry Ford said, history is bunk. It's not where you were, but where you're going. Living in the past, wallowing in partly-fabulated mythology passing as history, just leaves you repeating the same old mistakes. I'm not a redcoat with a stock driving my head up into the sky, an ill-educated horny-handed son of a plough. They tell me I may gave set the top bar for brains. My reply is I was made that way because it was the only way a human could cope with the Boss, 'im Upstairs, however you know him. I'm the worthy child of my parents, my dad left us with hip implant technology, the ISO Standard for Pressure Vessels used in nuclear reactors, and the coordination which saved thousands of lives at the start of this pandemic, turning idle manufacturing plant to produce medical ventilators in just four days. After succeeding with the ISO standard, he did exactly what you would have done, made a masterpiece to celebrate, firing up his forge and crafting the first Pressure Vessel Quality Advisory Board certification stamp. Mum was former SOE, a Resistance fighter in Belgium, who went on to work as PA to Krishna Mennon,  the Indian High Commissioner in London in 1946-7, during the Indian Independance talks. And that is why I have the authority to cite the Mahatma's reply when asked about Western Civilisation. He said it would be a good idea. Make it so.

What I did was nail Clausewitz' nonsense, that war is the continuation of policy by other means. Glib, certainly, but shortsighted. No war has gone on eternally. I'm actually an academic expert in the roots of the Enlightenment, and part of that is shaking out from the near-collapse of Europe in the wake of the Black Death. It's a lesson in power play I well understand as a former European Crisis Manager, the finance man in the CFSP State Department. I saved Albania in 1997, at the head of the team of economic experts who sorted the wreckage of the Ponzi scheme which wrecked their economy, and did the pathfinding for Malta's accession to Europe. Essentially, given all wars end in peace talks once they've exhausted their economies, why start? My own body, the Western European Union, was born from the team of Civil Servants sent in in the wake of the Allied Armies to sort that mess out in 1944. That turned into The Western European Defence Organisation, and spun NATO off.

So don't talk to me about future fears, please, you've over-egged the case. The UK's a generation since we disarmed our civil community, and is still producing the world's finest soldiers. Kids wandering around pretending to be a militia are just a joke, a sick one, admittedly, but none the less not to be taken seriously. I've spent 18 years as a top professional keeping the peace and have been personally recognised by the Heads of State, which is quite a story. I have the gongs. I'm fully certified both psychologically, by the Church of England, and Harley Street, as a seer medium, my weird having done its bit in full view of both the top medics and half the UK Government in 2015, accurately handling at four hours notice a major strategic issue, which from my side simply meant digging the study paper I'd started working on six months previously, knowing the question was coming my way. It may have caused the current fixation on geeks and misfits.

You may dismiss this as Mitty syndrome - I'd reply you're actually perpetrating Cassandra's Curse. These things don't just happen, people like me make them happen. What am I doing here? Because one essential prerequisite of having your head in the clouds is keeping your feet on the ground. As I demonstrated in the Mexican harness thread, I also spin and work in rope. And long may that continue.

I just want to make pretty leather items and from time to time sell them on Etsy.

[chuck123wapati]

8 hours ago, Rahere said:

OK, the big hammer then. Right now, Robert Schumann, the founder of the operation I went on not only to work in, but to complete, is up for Sainthood in the Church. We already have a Nobel Peace Prize in 2012, for the reintegration of Europe, which I led on and actually got to make happen, myself being detailed off the welcome the First Secretaries and Defence Attachés of the Eastern European States, the first morning of the first step into full accession into Europe, with the Western European Union. I later completed Gandhi's work, tying up the loose end he was working on when he was assassinated, not as a personal initiative, but because the Nation concerned came to me and asked me to help, so I did, making something new, exactly as you make something new when you take a knife to leather, with an idea in mind, experience to make it happen, and the resources to deliver to hand. But you know what? It was lined up for me on high, only an utter idiot could miss. As the office boss Javier Solana said, so unexpected was it, "How on earth did that happen?" This is why Rome's scaling it up further, because the credit goes to the bloke on the cloud.

The essence of it is that, as Henry Ford said, history is bunk. It's not where you were, but where you're going. Living in the past, wallowing in partly-fabulated mythology passing as history, just leaves you repeating the same old mistakes. I'm not a redcoat with a stock driving my head up into the sky, an ill-educated horny-handed son of a plough. They tell me I may gave set the top bar for brains. My reply is I was made that way because it was the only way a human could cope with the Boss, 'im Upstairs, however you know him. I'm the worthy child of my parents, my dad left us with hip implant technology, the ISO Standard for Pressure Vessels used in nuclear reactors, and the coordination which saved thousands of lives at the start of this pandemic, turning idle manufacturing plant to produce medical ventilators in just four days. After succeeding with the ISO standard, he did exactly what you would have done, made a masterpiece to celebrate, firing up his forge and crafting the first Pressure Vessel Quality Advisory Board certification stamp. Mum was former SOE, a Resistance fighter in Belgium, who went on to work as PA to Krishna Mennon,  the Indian High Commissioner in London in 1946-7, during the Indian Independance talks. And that is why I have the authority to cite the Mahatma's reply when asked about Western Civilisation. He said it would be a good idea. Make it so.

What I did was nail Clausewitz' nonsense, that war is the continuation of policy by other means. Glib, certainly, but shortsighted. No war has gone on eternally. I'm actually an academic expert in the roots of the Enlightenment, and part of that is shaking out from the near-collapse of Europe in the wake of the Black Death. It's a lesson in power play I well understand as a former European Crisis Manager, the finance man in the CFSP State Department. I saved Albania in 1997, at the head of the team of economic experts who sorted the wreckage of the Ponzi scheme which wrecked their economy, and did the pathfinding for Malta's accession to Europe. Essentially, given all wars end in peace talks once they've exhausted their economies, why start? My own body, the Western European Union, was born from the team of Civil Servants sent in in the wake of the Allied Armies to sort that mess out in 1944. That turned into The Western European Defence Organisation, and spun NATO off.

So don't talk to me about future fears, please, you've over-egged the case. The UK's a generation since we disarmed our civil community, and is still producing the world's finest soldiers. Kids wandering around pretending to be a militia are just a joke, a sick one, admittedly, but none the less not to be taken seriously. I've spent 18 years as a top professional keeping the peace and have been personally recognised by the Heads of State, which is quite a story. I have the gongs. I'm fully certified both psychologically, by the Church of England, and Harley Street, as a seer medium, my weird having done its bit in full view of both the top medics and half the UK Government in 2015, accurately handling at four hours notice a major strategic issue, which from my side simply meant digging the study paper I'd started working on six months previously, knowing the question was coming my way. It may have caused the current fixation on geeks and misfits.

You may dismiss this as Mitty syndrome - I'd reply you're actually perpetrating Cassandra's Curse. These things don't just happen, people like me make them happen. What am I doing here? Because one essential prerequisite of having your head in the clouds is keeping your feet on the ground. As I demonstrated in the Mexican harness thread, I also spin and work in rope. And long may that continue.

LMAO  what a bs story you can tell. sorry i didn't read it.    NO ITS OUR BILL OF RIGHTS.

Edited June 21, 2021 by chuck123wapati

[Frodo]

2 hours ago, PastorBob said:

I just want to make pretty leather items and from time to time sell them on Etsy.

As long as the buyer likes it i do not care if it is pretty or not

I have been asked to make some things I thought were hideous .  and others loved

These X-mass doo dads come to mind