Members dikman Posted July 11, 2021 Members Report Posted July 11, 2021 Handstitched, I reckon you'll be happy with the Detroit and I'm confidant that if you do have any issues Total Tools will do the right thing. As for the name, it's simply the Chinese manufacturer trying to capitalise on an American sounding name. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Spyros Posted July 11, 2021 Members Report Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) On 7/10/2021 at 3:15 PM, Handstitched said: G'day and thank you for your replies. Does it say anywhere , on the tool, packaging or storage box where its made? I can hazard a guess. @Spyros I still have a few ' GMC' tools , (that are no longer made), drill, jig saw, bench sander and a compressor , and , touchwood, they still work fine . Its seems that we can't get away from ' Made in China' . I might have to take a bit of gamble. It doesn't seem to matter what brand I go for, it will still be ' Made in China'. I agree. This will only be used for the occasional restore job, cleaning/polishing, removing rust on small components etc. Thank you once again for your help HS Half my tools are made in my back yard :D There's a lot of appetite for locally made tools in the market, people would buy them, but no one seems interested to make them. The bottom line is if you're in Australia and want to invest in something there are easier ways to make money. Manufacturing is hard and low margin. Edited July 11, 2021 by Spyros Quote
Members Handstitched Posted July 14, 2021 Author Members Report Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Just went to order my ' Detroit' tool online , only to find the freight is a bit over 2/3'ds of the product price, $49 for the tool and $35 for freight to my address ...that sucks. However, if I buy $100 worth of tools, I get free freight...go figure? It'll cost me around $45 bucks in fuel ( + traffic snarls/ hassles/ rage ) to pick the damn thing up !! Theres an expression we have here in Oz " NOT-HAPPY-JAN !! " only an Aussie will know what that means.... I'll.... figure something out...apart from inventing new curse words @tsunkasapa Sadly, Buck knives, an American icon, are now made in China. Yep I hear ya !! Happens far too often to our icons. And I always keep an eye out for any old / vintage leather tools at s/h markets etc. practically any tools related to leather. They were made to last . HS Edited July 14, 2021 by Handstitched Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Klara Posted July 14, 2021 Members Report Posted July 14, 2021 I feel your pain. Between $ 35 for shipping and $ 55 for more tools, I'd choose the latter. Surely they sell something else you or your family or a neighbour might need or want? Or find another supplier. I doubt there is much difference between one Chinese rotary tool and the next... Quote
Members jimi Posted July 14, 2021 Members Report Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Handstitched said: Just went to order my ' Detroit' tool online , only to find the freight is a bit over 2/3'ds of the product price, $49 for the tool and $35 for freight to my address ...that sucks. However, if I buy $100 worth of tools, I get free freight...go figure? In that case i would probably look for a second hand little used Dremil around your area, sometimes people buy them for the urge and don´t use them in the end so you might get a good deal. Also people get them as presents and then sell then off when nobody in the family is looking! I think they are made in Mexico?? Quote
Members sbrownn Posted July 15, 2021 Members Report Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 4:50 AM, Spyros said: Manufacturing is hard and low margin. Without tooling it is difficult to compete in the tool manufacturing world and the upfront costs for tooling are expensive. Quote
Members Handstitched Posted July 16, 2021 Author Members Report Posted July 16, 2021 I think I have it sussed. I have an appointment in Perth ( 3hrs drive) in a few weeks time. I can pick up a rotary tool on the way. Its not the 'Detroit' I wanted, its the ' Rockwell' brand and is pretty much identical and about $10 more, but works out a lot cheaper than freight. The Detroit brand is available at a shop further north, extra 40 mins, but I can't be bothered driving that far. Wow, what a saga just to get a new tool and save a few bucks eh? In the next gripping episode.....just kidding HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Spyros Posted July 17, 2021 Members Report Posted July 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Handstitched said: I think I have it sussed. I have an appointment in Perth ( 3hrs drive) in a few weeks time. I can pick up a rotary tool on the way. Its not the 'Detroit' I wanted, its the ' Rockwell' brand and is pretty much identical and about $10 more, but works out a lot cheaper than freight. The Detroit brand is available at a shop further north, extra 40 mins, but I can't be bothered driving that far. Wow, what a saga just to get a new tool and save a few bucks eh? In the next gripping episode.....just kidding HS why don't you just grab an ozito from bunnies? Quote
Members Handstitched Posted July 19, 2021 Author Members Report Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 9:23 AM, Spyros said: why don't you just grab an ozito from bunnies? I though about that too, however, the new massively OTT Burnnings in Midland (WA) has moved to another location , and its a real PITA ( Pain In The A....e ) to get to and park , but the the auto shop, SuperCheap Midland where the Rockwell is , is much easier to get into along my journey. But thanks HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members chrisash Posted July 19, 2021 Members Report Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Afraid the world is just the same as most small businesses, both have to specialise in their market area of expertise. The USA specialised in Aircraft, Oil exploration, electronics and many high end area's, whilst the Brits went for manufacturing, Technology and services, Norway on technical ships and oil industry, and Germany on high end engineering. but things change all the time with countries dropping out of some area's and moving into new ones. Whilst its easy to look at China for selling lots of goods ( and some are first class) look at the number of airlines around the world who buy US made aircraft, high end computers and other items One thing that's different in the US than all other countries, is that other countries have one set of rules for the whole country whilst in the states each state can make its own rules, or so I understand, which may hinder some companies for example California has very strict rules on goods whilst others are far more relaxed. Just a observation and not a comment on right or wrong Edited July 19, 2021 by chrisash Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Handstitched Posted July 26, 2021 Author Members Report Posted July 26, 2021 @Spyros I got the Rockwell this morning. Off to have a 'play' soon HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Spyros Posted July 27, 2021 Members Report Posted July 27, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 5:49 PM, Handstitched said: @Spyros I got the Rockwell this morning. Off to have a 'play' soon HS Nice Get yourself some original Dremel bits. The ones that come with those cheaper tools will still do the job, but find the ones that you use the most or are most important for what you do and get Dremel branded ones. Bunnies has them. Quote
Members Handstitched Posted October 13, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 13, 2021 I have finally had the chance to use my new rotary tool ( that I bought back in July) this arvo. I was cleaning up a few horse shoes for a few projects . I combine the shoes & leather for ' horsey' ornaments. The bulk of the cleaning is done with a bench buffer, but I used the rotary wire brushes to clean out the groove on the shoes, they lasted.........? ........2 minutes . They just fell apart . I was gentle with it and I slowed the speed right down too. My shirt was pitted with bits of wire. You get what you pay for, I know that , but FFS , I would have thought they would have lasted a bit longer than 2 minutes ??? Off to hardware shop this Friday to get better quality accessories. HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Klara Posted October 13, 2021 Members Report Posted October 13, 2021 My best wishes for finding decent accessories at a reasonable price! And then I cross my fingers that the motor will last... Quote
Members Dwight Posted October 13, 2021 Members Report Posted October 13, 2021 Looking at the tool . . . . and the price . . . . I'd run from it. My 20 yr old Dremel is still working . . . does not work as good as it did back then . . . but I doubt if the Detroit will last that long. And my Dremel tool alone was almost twice that price. Best wishes . . . may God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Handstitched Posted October 13, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 13, 2021 It was a ' Rockwell', same as Detroit...etc etc etc . This is one of those ' it'll only get used occasionally and stay in the case most of the time ' tools . Didn't see the need to fork out $$$ for an ex$y tool that gets used rarely. But will try to get some better accessories on Friday....fingers crossed. Going off topic a bit, I have 'cheap' GMC tools that have lasted many years and have never failed ( touch wood) You can see the aforementioned horse shoes, just to the right of the nice .....mmmm.......yummy .... icy..... cold beer in the pic.....I had buttered crumpets for lunch too, hence the beer HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
CFM chuck123wapati Posted October 13, 2021 CFM Report Posted October 13, 2021 i have two Dremel's and one off brand, one Dremel approx. 35 years old single speed but still runs fine, the ten speed Dremel not used much, my off brand motor , bought at wallymart, is used a lot , it is variable with the cable extension and about ten years old now. BUT i use Dremel bits and all Dremel discs and such. As i posted on another thread about power tools a cheap motor will run good bits a long time but cheap bits will kill a good motor quickly. If you are money tight you can use a cheaper motor but spend wisely on the bits and accessories and buy quality. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Handstitched Posted October 15, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 15, 2021 Went to our hardware chain for better quality accessories, no luck . Sure they had individual Dremel bits 'n' pieces, but not the ones I wanted, lots of empty hooks though . I'll keep looking, I'll end up going on line no doubt. HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
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