Members Tugadude Posted February 9, 2022 Members Report Posted February 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: I agree you would get better results with better tools. If those new better tools were taken away could you skive better? lol. My example that man can lay out a near perfect stitching line, if you gave him a 100 dollar set of chisels and somehow convince him that the time wasted using them would net better results and let him use them for a year or two could he go back and still create that stitching line without them? Would his stitching lines improve? Or replace that worn out old knife with an expensive head knife would it make his cuts better? Some things i think are obvious that they help others not so obvious. Good question. I imagine going backwards to lesser tools would result in a steep drop in quality. Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted February 9, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Tugadude said: Good question. I imagine going backwards to lesser tools would result in a steep drop in quality. He has likely been doing this all his life. I think if he had to go back to lesser tools (his original tools), the muscle memory would still be there. It might take him a little while to get the strength back in his hands, though - can you IMAGINE hand punching holes through that sole leather all day long? Mucho respect for this craftsman! And I would definitely buy a pair of shoes from him! They would probably last longer than anything available here in Canada! Quote
Contributing Member Samalan Posted February 9, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 9, 2022 I would end up stitching my toes together or something else fun to watch though. Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted February 9, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2022 Samalan, LOL! Me too - I'd certainly be poking a few holes in them! Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 9, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheilajeanne said: They would probably last longer than anything available here in Canada! yup and they ( shoes available in Canada) are made with the best most modern tools and materials. So that is why i asked the question lol using the best tools doesn't necessarily make that quality happen. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Sheilajeanne Posted February 9, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2022 Chuck, they're probably made with modern tools, but done in foreign sweat shops... And yeah, dubious quality... Quote
Members Tugadude Posted February 9, 2022 Members Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheilajeanne said: He has likely been doing this all his life. I think if he had to go back to lesser tools (his original tools), the muscle memory would still be there. It might take him a little while to get the strength back in his hands, though - can you IMAGINE hand punching holes through that sole leather all day long? Mucho respect for this craftsman! And I would definitely buy a pair of shoes from him! They would probably last longer than anything available here in Canada! I wasn't referring to him. I was referring to a normal leatherworker who is given better tools and then they are taken away. I'm suggesting that much of the benefit goes away with the tools. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 9, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tugadude said: I wasn't referring to him. I was referring to a normal leatherworker who is given better tools and then they are taken away. I'm suggesting that much of the benefit goes away with the tools. I'm sorry i have to put my money on the man not the machine. Quality comes from the human element more than anything. You can buy a clicker press and make a perfect product in shape, but it still wont enable you as a person to learn or acquire the experience and skills to cut out that same product by hand better. It also wont necessarily make the product better quality but it will look perfect in shape, be cheaper to make, and be faster to do. On a global scale he is probably just as much of a normal leather worker as your vision of one. lol. Its a big world lol Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 10, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 10, 2022 wonder where a guy could get the sewing needle he uses? Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
kgg Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: wonder where a guy could get the sewing needle he uses? He probably made it himself out of a steel nail. It almost looks like a metal flatten sharp headed crochet needle. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
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