Thanks Chris, I might hit u up soon on the snaps. I need to get some projects done before I haul off and start experimenting with newer stuff. I see your around bikes alot, are you a full time custom guy or just straight leather? I am a technician on the metric side for the past 5 years but since started a business of my own. Thanks for the site! That will help me reconnect with a lot of buddies in the bike shops.