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Uwe started following Adler 69 Hook Issue, Table Top Questions for Cylinder Arm Machines, pfaff 345 timing went to heck and and 5 others
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I got an aluminum table for my Juki LS-341 from RecentRelics on Etsy. It’s a very nice table and with some upgrade modifications, it’s rock solid and takes seconds to install or remove with a single thumb screw. I was not a fan of the 3D-printed bits that came with the table attachment, so I replaced the one for the thumb screw with a small aluminum plate, and the arm wedges with a custom-molded J.B. Weld SteelStik saddle. The round magnetic tray insert for needles or clips can be found at most hardware stores. J.B. Weld is a steel reinforced epoxy putty for making repairs to metal parts. It’s a miracle in stick form. You tear off a part of the stick and knead it to activate it. You can file, drill, cut just like metal when it’s hardened. I used half a stick on either side of the arm. Here’s how the table attachment arrived, including the 3D printed parts (You can’t see the arm wedges on the underside of the table.) Here are few pics of my modified table attachment: This is the J.B. Weld SteelStik saddle. I wrapped the arm with kitchen plastic cling wrap, then in stalled the table and pressed half a stick of J.B. Weld in the gap on either side of the arm. It sticks really well to the aluminum table (but not the plastic wrap) and it conforms perfectly to the arm, paint/casting dimples and all. I filed some edges down a bit by hand.
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If your machine doesn’t have a safety clutch , then you’ll have to re-time the hook. The Pfaff safety clutch looks and works differently from other manufacturers. I made this video some time ago:
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UT3200: Flatbed attachment for the Cowboy CB-3200
Uwe replied to Uwe's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
My table attachments are not available right now, sorry. But I’m in talks with a friend who wants to produce some using my CAD files. If the collaboration works out they might become available again. -
Pfaff 545 Identification and tension issues
Uwe replied to Gryning's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Thanks for those two videos, it’s really helpful. Your hook timing and bobbin case opener look on point, actually. There must be something else going on.The hook does not look worn to me. One note: You HAVE to hold both thread ends when you start sewing. I can see one of the thread ends getting pulled to the underside. If thread gets pulled into works by the rotating hook you’re off to a bad start, essentially flipping a coin on whether or not you will have a bird’s nest right at the start. From a debugging perspective, the next thing I would do is figure out when in the cycle thread gets pulled through the tension unit (off the spool.) In order to have loops on the bottom, thread must get pulled through the tension unit either: 1. More than once, including once at the wrong time during the stitch cycle 2. Just once, but too much thread gets pulled from the spool due to lack of proper upper thread tension I’ve also seen machines where the threading looked correct, but the tension disks were permanently pushed apart due to a stuck or faulty tension release mechanism. If the tension disks are pushed apart during the stitch cycle, the machine will pull too much thread from the spool, especially at higher sewing speeds. Another popular failure mode is when the thread wasn’t pulled between the tension disks and is simply riding around the tension disks along the outside perimeter of the disks. When threading, make sure the thread gets positively pulled between the tension disks.Your picture above shows it being correct, but it’s an easy detail to miss sometimes. Do a few very slow hand turned stitches, and instead of filming the hook area, show us the thread take-up lever and the thread tension unit with check-spring. Tug on the thread at various points of the cycle to make sure it maintains proper tension. I did a stitch cycle video once on my LS-341, which, aside from demonstrating what’s supposed to happen when, is also a good diagnostic tool. This video shows how the tension release mechanism is supposed to work. The various Pfaff H1/2/3/4 versions have slight differences in the tension release mechanism, so yours may look a little different. In general, the tensions discs are only supposed to be pushed apart when you lift the presser feet past a certain point (to make removal of the material easier). -
It might be simpler to find some material of the right thickness and cut/file it into the right shape. You might also be overthinking this. A simple solution would be to just remove the needle guide for needles above size 250NM. According to the Dürkopp Adler 205-370 parts diagram, they never made a 280 size shim and the 300 shim was discontinued at some point. While they were making the 300 size shim, I’m pretty sure they advised to just use the 300 shim with needles over size NM250. Then they probably decided the guide (and shim) is not needed at all with needles above size 250NM. When Juki designed the Juki TSC-441, loosely based on and as a competitor to the Adler 205, they simplified things a lot and one of the things they decided to leave out altogether is that needle guide and shim business. Most Juki 441 class machines have been sewing just fine for a long time, without any needle guide and shim. Nothing truly bad will happen if you run the 205 without the needle guard and shim. Worst case scenario the needle will deflect and bend away from the hook and skip a stitch. If you manage to bend a 300NM size needle enough to skip a stitch, I really want to see what you were sewing. I’m picturing an entire horse saddle dangling off the end of the arm, with a bewildered cowboy still in the saddle. I’ve sewn Tex415 size thread using a 250NM needle (with shim&guard) and my Adler 205-370 cooperated quite nicely and made a lovely stitch. I’ve never sewn anything on the 205 that truly required the needle guide to prevent skipped stitches.
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Pfaff 545 Identification and tension issues
Uwe replied to Gryning's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Congrats on your Pfaff 545, those are really nice machines. You missed a thread guide, which shortens the length of the thread path ever so slightly: The loops on the bottom of your material are most likely due to the thread snagging at some point, which pulls more thread off the spool at the wrong time, and the machine never gets a chance to pull the knot tight, leaving loops at the bottom. The two most likely cause for thread snags are: 1: Incorrect hook timing that cause the thread not to be cast off the hook nib at the right time. The cast-off nib is directly below the tip of the hook, at the bottom of the hook. This failure-to-cast-off causes the thread to be held in place while the thread take-up lever is moving up. This in turn may cause more thread to be pulled from the spool through the tension unit at the wrong time. If that happens, chances for a tight knot are near 0% and the odds of a loop is nearly 100%. You should be able to see this happening with a very slow, hand-turned stitch. You will also hear a distinct snapping sounds as you’re sewing.The only time thread is allowed to pulled through the tension unit is when the thread take-up lever is at the very top of its movement. To fix this problem, you very likely have to advance hook timing (make it arrive at the needle earlier), which also causes the thread to be cast off the hook nib earlier. This video show this failure-to-cast-off problem happening on a different machine with a similar vertical axis hook. You can hear that snapping sound at the end. This particular case did not cause loops at the bottom, but I hope you see the problem : Here a picture that shows that cast-off nib: 2. The bobbin case opener may not be properly adjusted and does not allow smooth passage of the thread through the gap around the bobbin case tab.If the thread gets stuck in that passage while the thread take-up lever is moving up, you have the similar result as above. Judging by the chewed-up condition of the adjustment screw on your machine, I’d say somebody was struggling to get this adjusted correctly in the past. This video shows the function and adjustment of the bobbin case opener on a machine with a similar hook and bobbin case opener: -
Did you have to modify the winding post to make it fit the bobbin?
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Sneak Peek: UT441 flatbed table attachment for 441 class machines
Uwe replied to Uwe's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
Not at the moment, but I’ve had friend of mine express interest in making them. If that works out, we’ll post about it. -
The original topic with all the pictures is linked below. I can’t believe that was over nine years ago!
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Those other feet in the photo are not OEM/Pfaff feet, but rather some other aftermarket supplier. It’s likely the case that those other aftermarket feet are taller than they should be and that the machine was adjusted to accommodate the taller feet. My guess is that the KH feet are the better feet in this comparison, in terms of matching the original OEM dimensions.
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Yes, the Durkopp Adler 867 M-Type is the current design iteration: https://www.duerkopp-adler.com/products/industrial-sewing-machines/industrial-applications/hkl-site-m-types/m-type/#panel0 The Durkopp Adler 267 is a vintage design from the 80’s that Durkopp Adler still sells new: https://www.duerkopp-adler.com/products/industrial-sewing-machines/industrial-applications/basic-machines/267 This is a very nice vintage design. The Durkopp Adler 667 and 867 are modern M-Type designs. The M-type series represents a major design change and they have little in common with the older models. There also were 467 and 747 models, both entirely different designs from the 267 or modern M-type. I would not recommend these models - they work great but a tricky to adjust and repair. It gets confusing because the 667 M-Type came out well after the 767, I don’t know why. I think they backed up their numbering scheme when they launched the M-Type class of machines. And the 967 H-Type is a total monster of a super heavy duty machine. If you can afford a new OEM machine, I’d recommend the M-Type 867-M. They’re amazing machines and it’s what I would buy again if I needed a new OEM upholstery class flatbed machine. I’ve owned one for a while, later sold it, and immediately regretted selling it. I’ve attended a factory service workshop on this model - it’s easy to adjust and the documentation is really, really good. A few pics just to illustrate the various models: Durkopp Adler 267: Durkopp Adler 467 and 767: Durkopp Adler 867 M-Type:
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I’m glad you got it figured out! I wonder if that washer is in the parts diagram, or if it was added later for some reason. There may be difference between the older Adler and the newer Durkopp Adler versions of the 69-373. The casting is not quite the same. I don’t have any documentation for the old, pre-Durkopp merger, Adler 69-373. The one I had was the later Durkopp Adler 69-373.
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The Durkopp Adler 69-373 uses a System 134 needle, not System 134-35. That may not be the cause of your issue, but it’s generally best to use the correct needle system. The 134-35 needle is 4.2mm longer than the 134. The size of the needle matters, too. The 69-373 is designed to use size NM 110-130. A thicker needle gets closer to the hook just due to the diameter of the needle. Try a System 134, size NM130 needle and report back. A few close-up photos of your hook area would be helpful, or even a small video snippet (via YouTube) of the hook touching the needle. The Durkopp Adler 69 service manual ( Durkopp Adler 69-373 Service Instructions.pdf ) is a good reference for making adjustments.
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The Adler 269 is a very nice design and generally a great machine. Don’t let the startup issues get you down. There may be multiple things going on: First, your hook-to-needle timing may be off a little. Forward is more forgiving than reverse. In my experience, if machine sews well in reverse then it almost always also sews well forward. The opposite is not true. Carefully timing the hook and checking reverse in the process should help with that problem. Not only does the needle need to pick up the thread reliably, the hook also needs to let go of the thread when the thread take-up lever start pulling up. Sometimes forward is fine, and in reverse all hell breaks loose , the thread snags on the hook tab, or the hook gib doesn’t let go of the thread soon enough - all of these things cause loops on the bottom, A small amount of retarding or advancing hook timing should resolve that. Second, it looks like your feed timing/balancing may be off, the reverse stitch length should match forward. If your machine has adjustable hard stops at the top and/or bottom of the reverse lever slot, make sure they’re are not causing the problem with short reverse stitches. The manual doesn’t specifically address stitch balance, but in general, if you have maximum stitch length dialed in and the needle is in hook timing position, flipping the reverse lever up and down should NOT move the needle. Small adjustments of the feed eccentric on the top shaft should correct any unwanted movement. The Adler 269 service manual ( Durkopp_Adler_269_instructions_for_service.pdf ) should apply to your machine, go through it in sequence verify the various “rules” or reference positions it describes. Make adjustments if needed. Normally the dealer does this, they may have missed a few steps.
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Getting the knot to be consistently in the middle of the material is a delicate balancing act. Both top and bottom tension have to be close and consistent. There are lots of ways to mess with the consistency part. Anything that increases or decrease either top or bottom tension momentarily may cause knots to show on the top or bottom. Since the up/down pattern looks to be about the length of one bobbing winding, that’s where I’d look first. Sources of momentary tension changes (not in any particular order): 1. Spool unwinds unevenly, perhaps due to a sock, or lack thereof 2. Hole on arm above spool is not directly above the spool, causing non-symmetrical unwinding 3. The thread is springy and wants to coil around something 4. Poorly wound bobbin (a crowd favorite!), perhaps try a pre-wound bobbin as reference? 5. Dangling thread end under the bobbin catches something on every turn 6. Bobbin itself has a burr that catches on something with every turn 7. Leather is a natural material and not consistently thick/hard/scarred/lumpy, etc. 8. Needle tip geometry may cause variations in the exit hole on the bottom, changing how hard it is to pull the knot into the material 9. Needle size is incorrect, increasing the odds of problems 10. Lumpy thread 11. Neutrinos zipping through the earth Pull slowly on the bobbin thread and feel for tension changes as the bobbin unwinds. If it feels uneven, that’s a problem. Same for the top thread, remove from eye of the needle and pull slowly. If it feels uneven, that’s a problem.