Thanks for the kind words everyone, its really nice to hear. Art it really is my first project to use some carving. I did practice for a few weeks before giving it a try. I was worried at first to start off on something so big, I didn't want to waste leather. But I figured what the heck it was going to be for me, so if I goofed up oh well. I'm really glad I did though because I learned stuff that I wouldn't have learned otherwise. I see many things that I'll do different next time but it was a great learning experience. My hat goes off to anyone that can do this sort of work and make a living, because as slow as I am I would surely go broke. Thanks again Rusty ps... Tom it was very humbling