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That's okay. As long as you know that people appreciate your work. 🙂

🙂I'm sure your mother will love them. You can see the love you put into making them. The colors you have selected look so beautiful together.

That would be the thing to do. You have not mentioned the type of leather on your couch. Vinegaroon only works on unfinished veg tanned leather. Baking soda damages leather more than vinegar, so be careful. You could try those enzymatic cleaners that are available for pet messes to get the stain really clean but spot test first.. After that, there are many leather dye creams available online, on Amazon. They are usually advertised for shoes or bags but work well on anything. I tried them some years ago and the shoes I restored then are still going strong.

Absolutely! 🐔 Cluck cluck cluck! 😄

😅 I guess that is a sign that I need not worry about trying chicken fat on leather. I'm afraid I do not know much about ancient Ireland except for the fact that the society was more advanced and structured and much more respectful of women than society today. I always wondered why they allowed the Anglo Saxon hordes and their sanctimonious attitudes to overcome them. Anyway, I seem to be digressing from the main topic. I am planning to try the various water based conditioners. Sometimes I find that I need one which does not change the color of the leather. I know the Chemical Guys conditioner is good but am looking for others. I have found that with water based conditioners, I need to condition more frequently. Without an occlusive agent, the leather dries faster, I suspect. That is why, if I can condition a set with different water based conditioners, I can get an idea of how long each conditioner lasts before the specific piece of leather needs to be conditioned again My current set, with oils, waxes and fats are still fine and do not need to be treated again.

Oh yes! I remember reading about it. Chandlers used to go around to different villages in their carts, making the yearly supply of beeswax candles for the churches and the wealthy. I do not remember which century or country though but it would have been in Europe. The East was completely different in every way. Is that the time when chicken fat would have been used on leathers? Has chicken fat even been used anywhere on leather, anyway? I wonder. Everywhere I read the same thing - It goes rancid fast! If people find rancid coconut oil unpleasant surely they would object to this too? Or, they did not mind the smell, in which case, I come back to my original suggestion that maybe their surrounding smells inured them to the smell of rancid chicken fat. I prefer to think that even if anyone tried, they would have been turned off by the rancidity and never used it again.

😅 That puts me in my place. Sorry @fredk no offense was intended. It was different paths of discovery for different cultures and civilizations when people did not travel as much as we do today. We are in such a lucky place in time, having access to all that information now. Those cultures were very advanced - airplanes included, believe it or not. So @AEBL that they knew about soap is not surprising. 🙂 Many scientists have been quietly reading about older civilizations and using that knowledge today, I have heard. Not surprising. Not surprising that they have not given credit to those books either - plagiarism anyone? Coming back to the original thread, people did use plain tallow in lamps, is it not? They were used by the not-so wealthy. The wealthy used beeswax, which was not supposed to be so smelly or smoke as much. I have not tried tallow in lamps but I have read about it. What was used was not the refined tallow we purchase today either. So maybe people had a different attitude to smells from our attitudes today. Needs must, maybe?

😄Good to know. although, I don't watch movies, Hollywood or otherwise. I wondered more from the point of view of heat, lack of plumbing and running water and the tendency of people to use bath tubs and toilet paper. Back to the subject, i plan to render the fat from the skin by warming it on a clean pan. Let's see what happens. it is very warm here not and if it putrefies, I will know within a few hours.

Did they? But then, I wonder what the level of hygiene was in those times. When everything is a bit 'aromatic' I guess a little smelly chicken fat is barely noticed. 😅

That does it. I'll see if the chicken fat that I get is clean enough. If not, I'm dropping the idea of using it. Thank you for investigating that. I was searching on Amazon and all I found was filters for vacuums.

Oh wow! So many steps. I should look into getting a hand vacuum pump. I am increasingly beginning to wonder whether it is worth testing chicken fat. I have not really heard of it being used anywhere on leather anyway.

Yep. My grandmother went through the same - same solution by my grandfather too. Put me off sewing machines for ages.

It appears that not many have experience working with Pirarucu. When I learn about it, I will post it here for others who might want to know about it as well.

I have some beautiful pirarucu pieces and am not sure how to use it. The scales are removed and the scale bases remain, in quadrilateral shapes. These shapes have a ridge around them. The ridges are not firm. They are almost filamentous. You can reach under them, to where the scalers were inserted - tiny pockets, as it were. The ridges can tear off easily if I make anything with the leather as it is now. I have seen pirarucu boots and the scale bases and ridges seem pretty firmly in place. If they were not, they would not last long. How do they reach that stage? I have tried Resolene but that gives too much of a shine and does not stick anything in place. Glue maybe, but sticking each scale base in place is going to be tie consuming, not to speak of the damage to the appearance of the leather. I tried that too though. I have heard suggestions of shellac but that will destroy the texture. If anyone has worked with Pirarucu and can guide me on how to use this beautiful, unusual leather, I would appreciate it. Incidentally, Arapaima is a food source in South America and increasingly, being farmed ethically.

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