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The Tandy site says it can be used as a resist. Not sure about the dilution needed though. They do not say it needs to be diluted when they describe the method to use it as a resist. Maybe you could test it on some scrap? https://tandyleather.com/products/eco-flo-super-shene -
Does anyone like this type of belt buckle?
SUP replied to chingyoung's topic in Hardware and Accessories
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Ohh. I forgot about the resources section. Stupid of me. Will check that now. Thank you for reminding me. A little later - Looked up resources - a rich source, but every thing is found mixed in together. Maybe we need to have subsections? I know that when I search for something using the search engine, I don't always find it easily. Maybe I do something wrong.
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I know exactly what everyone here means! I see my poor attempts and then the absolutely beautiful work posted on this forum and wonder at the patience and effort that was needed to reach that level of expertise. Awe-inspiring. And something to aspire for, isn't it?
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Maybe we should have a thread dedicated to good books for leatherworking! There are so many books out there available on the net, not all necessarily good or worth the price. It's difficult to separate the chaff from the grain. But once one of us actually goes through a book and knows how it is, a comment here means less searching for the rest of us.
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This is just an FYI for anyone who might be wanting to get into leather work or even leatherworkers whose knowledge has some blank areas - mine does.. The book titled "Leather Crafting starter Book" available at Tandy Leather gives a lot of useful information and plenty of tips. I just saw it today. Along with describing basic tools needed, It also teaches basics like saddle stitching, lacing, how to glue leather together, which glue to use when and so on. It also has nifty little projects for the beginner. The cute little dinosaurs are my favourite. Other projects include simple wallets, making a whip, flowers and a simple bag. I put this here because I did not know where else to put it. @Northmount, if it should be in a different place, could you please move it?
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@deboardp, that is sad. I hope a day comes when you will value yourself more. When one is not puffed up with self importance, when one thinks one is no different from anyone else, that is humility and a virtue. Denigrating oneself? I don't think so. And before you say that I don't know what I am talking about, please remember you are a veteran and to the rest of us in the country, veterans are people whom we respect. Whatever happened afterwards are circumstances which you might or might not have contributed towards but that will not change the fact that you re a veteran. As my husband says and I agree wholeheartedly, when there is danger and we laymen run away, the armed forces, the police force, the fire service, all of you run towards it, so that the rest of us are safe. That is why, all of you are worthy of respect.
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LOL @deboardp me? Not so much. If I can get something done well on the cheap, I do not like to spend more. But i like lanolin in my conditioner for the fragrance as well - if petroleum jelly smelt as good, I would use it. And hey! it is not just our Western culture that produces and uses cheap stuff... think of where it comes from first! The rest of the world does it as well, produces and uses cheap stuff. Think of Balistol as @dikman said. It is only us who beat ourselves about it. No, my friend. Let's not do that. We have to respect ourselves first before we can expect others to respect us, and there is plenty to respect in us..
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@deboardp Just a word of caution. Beeswax hardens quite a bit and when I tried it first, my conditioner ended up hard. I had to add more and more lanolin and oil to get it to a paste. Since you are not planning to use oils which make the mixture more fluid, may I suggest you start with a small quantity of beeswax and add more until you get the texture you want? Else, like me, you might end up with a large hard block from which I hacked off pieces and added lanolin and oil to get a paste. A bit of a pain. Also if you want it to smell nice, maybe you should decide what you mean by 'nice'. Lanolin smells great to me - is that what you mean? Or do you plan to add something for fragrance? You can add any essential oil or fragrance oil but is that what you want? If so, maybe you could look up fragrance oils to find what will please you?
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@dikman Yep but you see, it is a personal thing, so to each his own. @deboardp if you are most comfortable with using greases on your leather, you also now know that they are fine on leather. As @chuck123wapati said, people have been doing it for 100s of years. So whether you do what they did or adapt something like petroleum products, ether way there is plenty of proof about all the ingredients and that they do not harm leather, never mind what the companies selling different products say. Good luck in your endeavour!
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Been there, done that. @deboardp
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There are only so many waxes and greases suitable for the purpose. Over the centuries, all the combinations will have already been tried, isn't it? Finally, it is just hydration, lubrication and water proofing, whatever the products used. If Aussies, with over 94% petroleum products is considered wonderful - people wax eloquent about it - as much as tallow and lanolin and beeswax and other animal products, it shows leather is hardy and not really fussy, is it not? And @deboardp if you are concerned about the vegans and vegetarians, why not emulate Aussies? There's proof for you that petroleum products do not actually harm leather and do not need animal products or indeed, labor-intensive procedures like hot-stuffing with grease to remain in good condition.
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I'll take your word for it.
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One of the uses of a still, I guess. Or just keep a handful of tobacco along with the leather maybe. After all, cigar boxes smell wonderful too - used to get them from my uncle who smoked cigars.
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Maybe, if you want to use this pretty patterned leather, if you used a thick glue, applied it only on the wallet and not on the lining and then placed this on and rolled, it might not bleed through .
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@dikman I use a D-limonene cleaner to clean my pots after I make leather conditioners in it, which contain beeswax. I spray it in and leave it fora while. Then I wipe it off. Sometimes I need to do it twice. After that, a quick scrub with soap, more for my satisfaction, and it's clean. My cleaner is a 16 oz bottle filled nearly to the top with tap water, 1-2 Tbsp of D-Limonene, 1 Tbsp of alcohol and a few drops of Dawn dishwashing soap as surfactant, in case you were wondering. Found this recipe online, tried it and am delighted with it. I suspect the alcohol evaporates fast enough though. I can understand D-Limonene being so expensive in Australia. Maybe you need to find a local manufacturer there?
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@fredk LOL That's one way of doing it.
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@jrdunn thank you. I am ordering it at once.
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Making essential oils must be time consuming, isn't it? I'm actually looking for a leather or tobacco fragrance. I'm a bit tired of everything smelling of orange! I thought my leather at least should smell a little different. Last week I added a tiny bit of a solid scent that I bought last month. It is a paste so blends right in. Strong scent so only a little was needed - smells of leather and tobacco. If I don't get a good fragrance oil for a leather fragrance, I will probably continue to use it.
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@p51p28 there are any number of discussions about leather creams in this forum. Just search for 'conditioner' and you will find them. Lots of discussions about ingredients as well, so you can choose which best suit your purpose. By the way, Aussie's is mainly petroleum jelly, 60% or more, and microcrystalline wax which is also obtained as part of the petroleum refining process, and petroleum distillates. They say the conditioner is made of beeswax but the percentage of that is only 3-6%. Check their MSDS. Not that there is anything wrong with that product. It works fine.
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@chuck123wapati a bit off topic, but you said you use your tallow to make soaps - lemon, lavender, peppermint. Do you use essential oils for fragrance?
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@fredk A divider across the stitched lines like @MarshalWill says, with a soft flexible leather would work well, I think. @Asavva what a wonderfully versatile pattern you have some up with! A pouch bag made with one piece of leather would not easily allow additions of pockets or compartments but this pattern is not only elegant and beautiful but allows those additions as well. And lovely color combination too. @jrdunn Your question is certainly worth a lot more than 2 cents since it resulted in so many useful ideas. Now I can't wait to make a pouch bag either.
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That is a nice bag! @jrdunnHow would you put inside pockets into a pouch bag? Would it not affect the shape?
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@chuck123wapati And fish oils are supposed to be good for leather too -used in oil-tanning leather isn't it? At least, that I want is said in the literature. If I were in Nevada, I would have an issue with tallow as the temperature goes up to late teens there but here, it is positively balmy in comparison. So I will not need too much wax then. Thank you.
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I wonder if I write so badly that some people don't understand my posts? Some of the responses make no sense. Enough of grumpiness. I have ordered several pounds of tallow and am just waiting to try it. Everyone has such praise for it, I had to get it. Not elk tallow though as @chuck123wapati uses. I do not think we can get it for sale - we get beef, lamb, bison but not elk. Does Tallow get very soft in summer? Here it gets pretty warm, so when I make the conditioner I want to be certain it will not get too messy in summer.