Members Spyros Posted March 19, 2022 Members Report Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Handstitched said: The only name that comes to mind...in Melbourne...is Lefflers ? Yeh, I too tried to order stuff from them . I gave up trading with them years ago. The only leather suppliers I deal with now is Birdsalls, Mac-lace leather, Packers , Adelaide leather and NSW leather co. agent in Perth . HS I like Austanners for many things, especially kangaroo (if there's two leathers you'll never catch me without is chromexcel and roo). But they're a good business, shipping is usually free, at least within VIC, they ship quickly, good photos, good descriptions, when they say something is in stock it always is, and once they get to know you sometimes they throw in free stuff too. They're not the luxury leather branded tannery type of thing so you're not gonna find there any high-end leather that rivals Horween or Sedgwick, but their descriptions and pricing are honest and they represent good value. Buying direct from the tannery cuts the middleman too. DS Horne in ADL has also been good in my experience but they suffer from the usual terrible website syndrom, you really have to ring them to find out what they really actually have. Edited March 19, 2022 by Spyros Quote
Members Klara Posted March 19, 2022 Members Report Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Handstitched said: I price everything, customers like to see prices,( regardless of laws) and so do I when I shop . They can make a choice. So do I - I want the option to just quietly go if I don't like the price. But I have talked to an artisan who didn't display prices because he wanted people to talk to him. He figured "how much is it" was a good starting point for him to explain how and why he made things. Sometimes I also would have liked the possibility to increase the price for particularly annoying people... Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted March 19, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Klara said: But I have talked to an artisan who didn't display prices because he wanted people to talk to him. He figured "how much is it" was a good starting point for him to explain how and why he made things. Sometimes I also would have liked the possibility to increase the price for particularly annoying people... Some years ago Donaghadee hosted an 'artisan' market. There was one chap who did wood carvings out of sea drift-wood. He had a fairly large sign, about an A4 size, which he placed on one of his pieces. On this card was written £50,000. People stopped, and asked him was that really the price? His reply was 'oops, that sign has fallen on to there, that item is only £25' As I watched he got about 75 - 80% of sales. That £50,000 card was moved about regularly during the event Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Spyros Posted March 20, 2022 Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Somewhat unrelated: A private survey in a company I used to work for that trades in discretionary consumer items, showed that our customers are a little more likely to pay $209.95 than $200 for the same item. That's how dumb we are Somehow round numbers trigger some bells in the back of the mind that the seller just pulled a number out of thin air in the last minute and they're getting fleeced. The price "$199.95" ranked even higher because it starts with "1" and some people actually fail to read the last few digits. Edited March 20, 2022 by Spyros Quote
Members Dwight Posted March 20, 2022 Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Spyros said: Somewhat unrelated: A private survey in a company I used to work for that trades in discretionary consumer items, showed that our customers are a little more likely to pay $209.95 than $200 for the same item. That's how dumb we are Somehow round numbers trigger some bells in the back of the mind that the seller just pulled a number out of thin air in the last minute and they're getting fleeced. The price "$199.95" ranked even higher because it starts with "1" and some people actually fail to read the last few digits. If you want to have some fun some time . . . go to Ebay . . . look up something costing about 50 bucks . . . then have it sorted by price, lowest to highest. If there are 150 offerings or so . . . invariably there will be one in there for $39.95 . . . but it will be after the ones for $79.95. Reason??? They're also charging you $59.95 shipping. I almost got hung on that one day . . . been super careful ever since. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Handstitched Posted March 20, 2022 Author Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Klara said: Sometimes I also would have liked the possibility to increase the price for particularly annoying people... I would like that same option for people that try no knock my price down . They must think if they can do that at a 'quaint little market run by some poor soul trying feed their family' on an o/s holiday, they can do the same to me......o'h no they can't HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Spyros Posted March 20, 2022 Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Handstitched said: I would like that same option for people that try no knock my price down . They must think if they can do that at a 'quaint little market run by some poor soul trying feed their family' on an o/s holiday, they can do the same to me......o'h no they can't HS Hang in there. I have a bag for sale at the moment with various people lowballing me. Nope, nope, nope and nope. I'd rather see it rot, I'll make a doorstop out of it, before working for free so someone can enjoy an expensive bag for peanuts. By the way that's just me, this is not my main source of income and I can afford to say no, but I would never criticise a fellow leatherworker if they need to accept some lowball offers in order to pay some bills. Edited March 20, 2022 by Spyros Quote
Members Klara Posted March 20, 2022 Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Spyros said: I would never criticise a fellow leatherworker if they need to accept some lowball offers in order to pay some bills. Except they couldn't, long-term. Unless they start out with prices that are too high so as to have a margin for negotiation. Which is okay, even obligatory in some cultures, but I still don't like it (either end). Quote
Members Constabulary Posted March 20, 2022 Members Report Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dwight said: If you want to have some fun some time . . . go to Ebay . . . look up something costing about 50 bucks . . . then have it sorted by price, lowest to highest. If there are 150 offerings or so . . . invariably there will be one in there for $39.95 . . . but it will be after the ones for $79.95. Reason??? They're also charging you $59.95 shipping. I almost got hung on that one day . . . been super careful ever since. May God bless, Dwight I always chose price + shipping: Lowest First But you can still find lower offers down the list f.i. when the listing has multiple variants like sizes (screws for instance). BTW - Are you aware of "Dynamic Pricing"? Sometimes prices on certain online marketplaces or web shops can be different depending on times, days (weekends vs. Mondays or in advance of holidays) or what device (lets say old Win 7 PC vs. latest Apple Phone) you choose for shopping. And - believe it or not Ebay is often cheaper than Amazon. I do not recall when I bought on Amazon the last time. I often compare prices before buying and my experience is that Ebay is cheaper most of the times - sometime other web shops but seldom Amazon. May depends on the products but thats my experience. Just recently - I needed a capacitor for my air compressor. Ebay was cheaper and fun fact - when I looked the sellers other listings (German Seller) I found the same capacitor listed in a different country (Ebay Spain) and it was 1.65€ cheaper than on Ebay.de. Sure not a big amount of money but still 30% cheaper @ 5.50€ vs. 3.85€ - but sipping was a little more - but still. And I figured Chinese sewing machine parts are often cheaper on Ebay.com than on Ebay.de from the same seller (has multiple accounts) that saved me ~12€ recently. I´m not counting pennies but over the time you can safe some good $ and buy other things. Edited March 20, 2022 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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