St patricks day!!!

[ButtonLady]

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[Handstitched]

I had two pints of Guiness for St Paddy's Day. I'm not Irish....but what the heck . Actually my ' ye olde' ancestry is Welsh..... I think. Which may explain why  I eat leeks  a lot ...??..    Just a giant spring onion really. 

 I don't know a single word in Welsh, except ' Cymru'   ( Wales) . It helps to have a gob full of snot to say it. 

The Guiness was yum  btw  

HS

[fredk]

On 3/16/2022 at 12:53 AM, tsunkasapa said:

Sounds like the National food is BUTTER! 

Remember this?

Let me share with you something I read just recently [actually a few weeks ago]

Background; this was written by Archbishop Rinuccini, the Pope's envoy to Ireland in 1645. His job was to supply weapons, food and money to the main groups of Irish rebels active at that time.  Although he had plenty of all supplies he still had to spread it around. When it came to distribution of food supplies he gave most to one group as

'the Ulster rebels have no caring for bread and live on trefoil* and butter. Their drink is milk and for a great treat whiskey'

'. . . provisioning of the [Ulster] army during a campaign little more than a great number of cows to provide milk and butter with which the people of that country, particularly those of Ulster, usually live, with a little addition of oat meal'

* nobody, as yet, has determined what this 'trefoil' is but it may be Birds-foot. The milk or butter mixed with it may eliminate the poisons

[Sheilajeanne]

Very interesting, Fred! Trefoil, of course, means three-leaved, and of course there are many plants that meet that description. I wonder if the plant was actually Oxalis, which is frequently eaten by people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis

I've always know my father's mother's people were from Ireland, and in the last few years, I've been working on the family history. They came from Limerick (Rathkeale) and were actually descended from German refugees who left the Rhineland Palatinate area after it was devastated by war with France in the late 1700's.  After there arrival in Britain, Queen Anne sent them to Ireland to work as tenant farmers for the wealthy English landowners.

My dad often wondered if they were pioneers in Ontario, and recently I was able to verify that, by finding the crown land grant that was given to them in 1824! 

Yes, it's very hard to read, but if you look at what's written on the right it says: In council 29th September 1824: Recommended 200 acres. Order issued September 30th 1824.

 

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Sheilajeanne

[chuck123wapati]

On 5/5/2022 at 12:20 AM, Sheilajeanne said:

Very interesting, Fred! Trefoil, of course, means three-leaved, and of course there are many plants that meet that description. I wonder if the plant was actually Oxalis, which is frequently eaten by people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis

I've always know my father's mother's people were from Ireland, and in the last few years, I've been working on the family history. They came from Limerick (Rathkeale) and were actually descended from German refugees who left the Rhineland Palatinate area after it was devastated by war with France in the late 1700's.  After there arrival in Britain, Queen Anne sent them to Ireland to work as tenant farmers for the wealthy English landowners.

My dad often wondered if they were pioneers in Ontario, and recently I was able to verify that, by finding the crown land grant that was given to them in 1824! 

Yes, it's very hard to read, but if you look at what's written on the right it says: In council 29th September 1824: Recommended 200 acres. Order issued September 30th 1824.

 

 

I always thought i was about half Irish and half German.  do a dna test you will be surprised where you really came from lol!!! the results change as more folks do them and more data is collected but still very accurate. i have no idea why the data saved as it did? i have over 31,000 dna matches on ancestry alone.

Ethnicity Estimate

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  Scotland31%
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  England & Northwestern Europe24%
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  Wales15%
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  Norway10%
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  Ireland8%
•  

  Sweden & Denmark5%
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  Germanic Europe5%
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  Benin & Togo1%
•  

  Cameroon, Congo & Western Bantu Peoples1%

Edited May 7, 2022 by chuck123wapati
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[Sheilajeanne]

Chuck - wow!!   Very interesting!

Some of my family members who remember world wars with Germany were upset to find out about the German ancestry. Which is pretty silly, because it dates back to long before either WWI or WWII. 

On my mother's side of the family, her grandmother and grandfather immigrated from Germany at the time of Bismarck. I found it interesting that the grandmother's ancestry suddenly changed to 'Canadian' from 'German' on the Canadian census done at the time of the first world war! 

Maybe I'll get around to doing my DNA profile one of these days... 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Sheilajeanne

[fredk]

I'm 100% US American, 50% Bohemian, 50% Ulster Irish, 25% Irish Scots, 25% German, 10% English, 5% Polish, 5% Jugoslavian but 100% just ME

[Handstitched]

12 hours ago, fredk said:

but 100% just ME

I've never given what I am much thought. I know I have a some Welsh in me, from my Fathers side ....somewhere, can't speak  word of Welsh,  may explain why I eat leaks, theres definitely some pommy ( english)  in me . I was born in Suffolk. But a part of me has a bit of Greek in me...I think, going by my last name .  I eat a lot of cheese , pickles, & salami's and small goods  

But I love a pint of  brown ale & fish 'n' chips .

Or it could be that fact ......I'm just a glutton <<<<<  

HS

[billybopp]

The last of my ancestors to come to the USA from Europe was a great grandfather born on a ship coming from Edinburgh in 1850.   I figure that makes me 100% US American. 

- Bill

[chuck123wapati]

On 5/8/2022 at 5:28 AM, billybopp said:

The last of my ancestors to come to the USA from Europe was a great grandfather born on a ship coming from Edinburgh in 1850.   I figure that makes me 100% US American. 

- Bill

 

On 5/8/2022 at 4:56 AM, Handstitched said:

I've never given what I am much thought. I know I have a some Welsh in me, from my Fathers side ....somewhere, can't speak  word of Welsh,  may explain why I eat leaks, theres definitely some pommy ( english)  in me . I was born in Suffolk. But a part of me has a bit of Greek in me...I think, going by my last name .  I eat a lot of cheese , pickles, & salami's and small goods  

But I love a pint of  brown ale & fish 'n' chips .

Or it could be that fact ......I'm just a glutton <<<<<  

HS

i have two Welsh families of Morgan's in my ancestry one of which i have documented to the point of knowing the ship they sailed on to America, and why they chose to come over on Mormon ships. lol. That Mormon mercenary tie to the Uk is a very interesting piece of history not many people understand or even know about

On 5/7/2022 at 4:16 PM, fredk said:

I'm 100% US American, 50% Bohemian, 50% Ulster Irish, 25% Irish Scots, 25% German, 10% English, 5% Polish, 5% Jugoslavian but 100% just ME

 

On 5/7/2022 at 12:51 PM, Sheilajeanne said:

Chuck - wow!!   Very interesting!

Some of my family members who remember world wars with Germany were upset to find out about the German ancestry. Which is pretty silly, because it dates back to long before either WWI or WWII. 

On my mother's side of the family, her grandmother and grandfather immigrated from Germany at the time of Bismarck. I found it interesting that the grandmother's ancestry suddenly changed to 'Canadian' from 'German' on the Canadian census done at the time of the first world war! 

Maybe I'll get around to doing my DNA profile one of these days... 

being 100% American goes without saying lol, in fact I'm fifth generation Wyomingite which IMO makes me indigenous to Wyoming. But the trip my DnA has led through history is very interesting to me and is unique to everyone. I can now see for example my Montgomery line, which I thought was Scots Irish actually came from Normandy with Charles the great, and before that Normandy and before that from Sweden and Finland and also somewhere in history, most think prehistory from Africa. I can read and document my ancestors lives through the building of America, i have had family in every major war ever fought by the US, and on almost every new frontier during the founding of our great country. We are all a tiny bit of almost every ancestor before us and i also think if we all knew our historic past there would be much less racism and hatred in the world.