Members Cumberland Highpower Posted August 17, 2022 Author Members Report Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) No thanks. I'm not a fan of Chinese imports. Not really looking to contribute $14 to the next Chinese Aircraft Carrier either..... If you already own one that's ok. Nobody is judging you here, we're all friends. Edited August 17, 2022 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Members sbrownn Posted August 17, 2022 Members Report Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Cumberland Highpower said: No thanks. I'm not a fan of Chinese imports. Not really looking to contribute $14 to the next Chinese Aircraft Carrier either..... If you already own one that's ok. Nobody is judging you here, we're all friends. "I'm not a fan of Chinese imports." You mean all of them regardless of their quality? Nobody is judging you here, we're all friends. Quote
Members bladegrinder Posted August 17, 2022 Members Report Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said: No thanks. I'm not a fan of Chinese imports. Not really looking to contribute $14 to the next Chinese Aircraft Carrier either..... If you already own one that's ok. Nobody is judging you here, we're all friends. It's good to think that way but you must not spend much money on anything, cause every store in America is loaded with Chinese stuff. it's hard to go shopping for anything but food and not come home with something from China. Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted August 18, 2022 Author Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, sbrownn said: "I'm not a fan of Chinese imports." You mean all of them regardless of their quality? Nobody is judging you here, we're all friends. Where is all this Chinese quality you speak of? I never heard anyone say "I want a good one, I'll buy Chinese." Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted August 18, 2022 Author Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bladegrinder said: It's good to think that way but you must not spend much money on anything, cause every store in America is loaded with Chinese stuff. it's hard to go shopping for anything but food and not come home with something from China. I don't have a single Chinese machine or tool in my shop, either shop. Yes some things are unavoidable to a degree, like a Chinese made bearing here or there hidden away from sight, etc. Chinese chemicals and materials used to some degree etc. When I have a choice I take the better option. I asked if the Consew 2050 was made in Japan (Not unrealistic question, given many Consews were/are made in Japan). Japanese made machinery is nearly always top shelf in design and build quality, so why shouldn't I ask? I didn't want to start a discussion about why I don't want to buy Chinese goods. I don't like China's business model, human rights abuse, industrial espionage, poor quality of export goods and militaristic bullying of everyone. I guess I'll pass on the Consew 2050 interest and look for something else to supplement my works. I wrote consew last week and they neglected to reply as yet, I guess that sums it up. Bladegrinder that's a real defeatist view of life. Im guessing you make knives based on your user handle? Suppose everyone went to dollar tree and Walmart and bought those cheap blades? What's wrong with Chinese blades? You'd probably be out of work or at best you'd had to find another hobby. Edited August 18, 2022 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 18, 2022 Moderator Report Posted August 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cumberland Highpower said: Where is all this Chinese quality you speak of? I never heard anyone say "I want a good one, I'll buy Chinese." Back in 2010 my buddy Doug, for who I worked as a sideman/sewer, upgraded his sewing operation with a Cobra Class 4; a Chinese built Juki 441 clone. Aside from swapping out the digital servo motor for an analog model, and remembering to oil it, the machine has performed flawlessly ever since. He uses it almost every day to sew items he sells online. One year later, in 2011, I started sewing my own orders at home and bought a new Chinese built Cowboy CB4500. I also swapped out the digital motor for an analog (Family Sew) motor. It too has performed flawlessly ever since. It is now in my leather shop and is used on a daily basis to sew holsters, sheathes, gunbelts and even to hem chaps. I also have numerous industrial black body Singer sewing machines and a gray German Adler. In the past I've owned two Union Lockstitch machines, which I sold off because they were too finicky. My deduction is that there are quality machines built all over the World if you look in the right places. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members bladegrinder Posted August 18, 2022 Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, Cumberland Highpower said: Bladegrinder that's a real defeatist view of life Defeatist way of life? I don't know how you come up with that. I was saying you must not shop for anything other than food because most stores in America are full of Chinese stuff. I'm typing on an HP laptop now, made in China, controlled by a mouse, made in china, while watching an LG TV, made in china. There's evil everywhere in the world, you like Japanese, read up on what they did to the Chinese in the 30s and early 40s. America rebuilt them. I like to buy American too but sadly our quality in a lot of things are junk. I've had American trucks all my life and would never buy an import, I don't care where it was made but if I'm in a Walmart looking for a coffee maker and their all made in China what am I supposed to do, go to my Apple phone made in China and Google where to buy an American made coffee maker? I'm THERE man...and I WANT a coffee maker! As far as me going out of work from people buying knives at Walmart, that's not going to happen. people will always buy what they can afford, just like high end cars, clothes, electronics and everything else. if someone want's a high quality handmade knife made in America and they can afford it they can buy one of mine. just like buying a leather belt made in China or upping their game and buying a handmade belt like lots of folks here make. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted August 18, 2022 Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) I´m sure when the machine does not clearly state made in Japan - then it is is not made in Japan. Buy a Dürkopp-Adler and it most likely will be made in the Czech Republic in the Minerva Plant (top Quality BTW). Even some JUKIs come form China I have read somewhere. China not my preferred "source" for goods but as mentioned before - you cannot run away from it. And I bought a lot of CHICOM sewing machine spare parts and have to say the quality in most of the cases was really top - way better that expected for the price. Edited August 18, 2022 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Handstitched Posted August 18, 2022 Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Well this has turned into something I didn't expect ? My 441 clone was made O/S , I bought it from a supplier in QLD Australia, never had any issues since I bought it in 2005, touch wood . The only thing that has gone wrong is the operator, Ha !! HS Edited August 18, 2022 by Handstitched Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted August 18, 2022 Author Members Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Bladegrinder I find allot of Electronic goods sold under the Panasonic name are made in Japan or countries other than China. I tend to buy Panasonic for this reason when I have time to shop. (for example my tv and laptop are Japanese) I generally avoid Walmart except when I need some bread and I'm in town. I have a throw away type phone from Dollar General and it's made in Malaysia. (Probably less Chinese). Edited August 18, 2022 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
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