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I don't intend to get into a debate about warranties and dealer services. I do want to point out that one of the purposes of this forum is to help people solve issues with industrial leather sewing machines. This is an excellent example of an unexpected part failure and how to replace that part. Had the OP purchased the machine used, with no warranty whatsoever, the same procedure would have to be followed to get the machine working again. The only difference is that the OP doesn't have to pay (full price) for the part. This is a learning opportunity in case someone else has a 441 clone that has a broken shuttle driver.

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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27 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

I don't intend to get into a debate about warranties and dealer services. I do want to point out that one of the purposes of this forum is to help people solve issues with industrial leather sewing machines. This is an excellent example of an unexpected part failure and how to replace that part. Had the OP purchased the machine used, with no warranty whatsoever, the same procedure would have to be followed to get the machine working again. The only difference is that the OP doesn't have to pay (full price) for the part. This is a learning opportunity in case someone else has a 441 clone that has a broken shuttle driver.

Good point BUT the key is prevention! I'm not saying this is the case here. But, I always stress to people when they buy one from us is to make sure to hold onto the needle thread when you start sewing. IDK how many jams it can take to break, it causes a lot of stress on the driver. So if your machine ever jams DO NOT try to use the motor to power through it, they are strong enough esp with the reducer to make this happen. Shut the motor off & turn the wheel backwards. If you can't turn the machine take the hook & race out to unclog it.

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Hi @SewMuchToLearn, I apologize for the delay here as I don't monitor LW.net daily and didn't notice this thread. I looked into our records and see that your initial email came in on a Friday and we responded Monday to help troubleshoot with this. Your replacement parts were shipped over a week ago, please let me know if you need further assistance by calling or emailing us.

I investigated this with both with our factory and our technicians. It looks like the break was caused by a thread blockage putting extreme stress on the part, we don't see anything that would indicate a manufacturing issue or defect. Nevertheless this is a critical component which is 100% covered under warranty. We shipped replacement parts right away along with detailed video guides on how to replace the parts.

To avoid machine downtime we always prefer to send replacement parts in cases where the repair is not too difficult. We have lots of video guides and offer support over Facetime to help with any kind of repair or adjustment. In any case where a repair is a lot more complicated we would replace the machine or perform the repairs on our own, 100% free of charge.

Thanks everyone for your input - happy to discuss further if anyone has questions.

best regards,
Ron

 

 

 

 

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To close the loop on this -- I received the shuttle driver assembly from Techsew last week, as Ron mentioned above. Was able to get it installed and my machine working again.  Techsew also offered me $150 credit towards a future purchase of replacement parts.

As for this part breakage being caused by a thread jam -- I do not recall any such jam. Seems like if it was enough stress to break the shuttle driver, I would remember the jam.

Regardless, I'm back up and running. Thanks all for your insight.

 

 

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