Adler 269-373 capacities

[Icho]

Hello all. I'm looking at an adler 269-373 and while trying to get info on it I can't seem to find maximum leather thickness capacity. Also, are parts reasonably priced and available? Does anyone have one that can help me out? Knife sheaths is the thickest project but also do wallets and other similar projects. Thanks. 

[Constabulary]

You find all technical data and manuals on the DA website (scroll down to leaflets / manuals and download them).

https://www.duerkopp-adler.com/products/industrial-sewing-machines/industrial-applications/basic-machines/269

Reasonable priced is a point of view - Adler parts will always cost more than f.i.  generic parts for Singer type machines. However KHSew (KwokHing) makes high quality generic parts for many Adler machines. KH parts are available directly or from some dealers and you even sometimes find them on Ebay.

https://www.khsew.com/index.php?route=product/manufacturer/info&manufacturer_id=12

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Constabulary

[Icho]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

You find all technical data and manuals on the DA website (scroll down to leaflets / manuals and download them).

https://www.duerkopp-adler.com/products/industrial-sewing-machines/industrial-applications/basic-machines/269

Reasonable priced is a point of view - Adler parts will always cost more than f.i.  generic parts for Singer type machines. However KHSew (KwokHing) makes high quality generic parts for many Adler machines. KH parts are available directly or from some dealers and you even sometimes find them on Ebay.

https://www.khsew.com/index.php?route=product/manufacturer/info&manufacturer_id=12

 

Thanks for the info. I'm sure khsew will come in handy if I get the machine. I did come across that duerkopp-adler page but I didn't see anything for max leather thickness. The machine I am looking at looks pretty much the same but older and an off white color. Can I assume it will be the same specs? I asked the seller about leather thickness and he said 1/8 but I'm thinking it should be capable of more than that but I don't know. I am going to take a look at it today but it is 2 hours away so that is why I am trying to get all of the info Ivan before I go. 

Also, he said it works as it should but may need a timing adjustment. I'm assuming that is not a big deal. 

Thanks again for the help so far. 

 

 

[CowboyBob]

10 hours ago, Icho said:

Hello all. I'm looking at an adler 269-373 and while trying to get info on it I can't seem to find maximum leather thickness capacity. Also, are parts reasonably priced and available? Does anyone have one that can help me out? Knife sheaths is the thickest project but also do wallets and other similar projects. Thanks. 

Should sew a good 20oz,5/16" or 8mm,using up to size 138 thread.

Edited November 11, 2022 by CowboyBob

[shoepatcher]

You can actually run #207 on top on these machines.  It will sew 10 mm depending on the hardness of the leather or material.  I have sewn 10 mm items on them before.  Again, this was not saddle leather.

glenn

[Icho]

2 hours ago, CowboyBob said:

Should sew a good 20oz,5/16" or 8mm,using up to size 138 thread.

 

4 minutes ago, shoepatcher said:

You can actually run #207 on top on these machines.  It will sew 10 mm depending on the hardness of the leather or material.  I have sewn 10 mm items on them before.  Again, this was not saddle leather.

glenn

That's what I was hoping to hear. Thanks guys. I can't wait to go see the machine today. If all goes well I should be playing with it tonight. From the research I've done in the past day, they seem to be good and reliable machines. Feel free to add any other info that may be of interest to me. 

Thanks again for the info. 

[shoepatcher]

very good machine!!!

glenn

[Icho]

Update!

First of all, thanks again to all that replied. You helped me spend my money. I got the machine. I am hoping it is a diamond in the rough. I got it out of my truck, down up the porch and down the first set of stairs and put it back together. Definitely a beast by myself. Here's a quick rundown of what I know. 

The seller told me that it likely has a timing issue.

When I saw it I knew that it needs a cleaning and a tune up.

I noticed other things like a couple added holes in the bobbin cover slide thing but that isn't going to affect the sewing, just snagging fabric. I will worry about that later.

I am going to say cleaning again because even if it does sew I wouldn't start a project until it is cleaned, oiled and tuned.

That said, I had to try to sew a piece of thin leather... it didn't. The needle picked up the bobbin thread but when I put the leather in, it is not picking up the bobbin thread with the leather in it so it is a no sew. I am not concerned at all yet. I just messed with it for less than an hour and I have an import patcher that I "adjusted" actually sews quite well so I know I can get this thing going. I can already tell that this machine is many steps up. That's it for me tonight but I attached pics of it back together so let me know what you thing. I paid $400CAD so $3.01... I mean approx $301USD. It is dirty, looks to be in pretty good shape over all and motor and mechanically sounds good... speaking of motor, is it a servo? I am thinking it may be but I don't really know what I am talking about. Let me know If I should start another thread if anyone is interested in coming on an adventure or if I should just keep this one going. Either way, I think it could help someone out in the future since I didn't really find a lot in info on this specific machine.

Thanks again for all of the help so far

[kgg]

7 hours ago, Icho said:

I paid $400CAD so $3.01... I mean approx $301USD.

That is good price as it does look like it's in good cosmetic shape with a nice table setup from the photo.

 

7 hours ago, Icho said:

speaking of motor, is it a servo?

No, it is a clutch motor with a box of tricks and needle positioner.

For a servo motor check out Japan Sewing Machine & Supply Co. (146 West Beaver Creek Road, Unit 5, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada L4B 1C2. Tel: (905) 764-0100 ). If you want to keep the needle positioner ability I know they carry a 1 HP brushless servo motor with a needle positioner. I don't know if their 1HP will work if you decide to put a speed reducer on. For now you could put a brushed servo motor on, 550 watt or 750 watt, with or without a speed reducer. I use their 550 watt brushed servo motors on all my machines as they are nice simple motors with no electronics.

kgg

[Icho]

8 hours ago, kgg said:

That is good price as it does look like it's in good cosmetic shape with a nice table setup from the photo.

 

No, it is a clutch motor with a box of tricks and needle positioner.

For a servo motor check out Japan Sewing Machine & Supply Co. (146 West Beaver Creek Road, Unit 5, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada L4B 1C2. Tel: (905) 764-0100 ). If you want to keep the needle positioner ability I know they carry a 1 HP brushless servo motor with a needle positioner. I don't know if their 1HP will work if you decide to put a speed reducer on. For now you could put a brushed servo motor on, 550 watt or 750 watt, with or without a speed reducer. I use their 550 watt brushed servo motors on all my machines as they are nice simple motors with no electronics.

kgg

Thanks. Good to know. As of right now I am fine with the motor set up it has. Definitely something to consider in the future.