how to attach metal clip to leather holster

[chuck123wapati]

1 minute ago, Bert03241 said:

Thanks Chuck but he wants a clip on it

Hey if you want to make it that's no skin off me i felt i had to say something some folks just don't think full circle when it comes to carrying a weapon that could get a guy in any number of legal or deadly problems if you lose it drop it or it gets taken. Anyone i make a holster for gets my opinion with it and if I don't think it will work I don't make it just that simple to much liability.

 

[Dwight]

20 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

Hey if you want to make it that's no skin off me i felt i had to say something some folks just don't think full circle when it comes to carrying a weapon that could get a guy in any number of legal or deadly problems if you lose it drop it or it gets taken. Anyone i make a holster for gets my opinion with it and if I don't think it will work I don't make it just that simple to much liability.

 

I guess I've been fortunate . . . never had anyone truly bust a gut going against my advice.

But also . . . I only use these clips for smaller guns . . . and only if it is an IWB . . . like say a Shield . . . would not use it for a 1911 or a Python or anything similar in size and weight.

May God bless,

Dwight

[chuck123wapati]

31 minutes ago, Dwight said:

I guess I've been fortunate . . . never had anyone truly bust a gut going against my advice.

But also . . . I only use these clips for smaller guns . . . and only if it is an IWB . . . like say a Shield . . . would not use it for a 1911 or a Python or anything similar in size and weight.

May God bless,

Dwight

Maybe you have my friend I'm not busting a gut Dwight but i am serious about the subject. Why?  I've just met people and seen things in life that most of the good people in the world haven't. A good healthy man wanting to take away any size gun, on a clip only has to grab it long enough to give a decent yank and its theirs. i cant in good conscience say other wise i think as holster makers we should be able to discuss openly and freely gun safety and the ability of your holster to keep your weapon safe and secure in a down and dirty tussle don't you? After all its the main job of the fighting type holster and the responsibility of the concealed carry owner. 

God bless you Pastor.

[Dwight]

6 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

Maybe you have my friend I'm not busting a gut Dwight but i am serious about the subject. Why?  I've just met people and seen things in life that most of the good people in the world haven't. A good healthy man wanting to take away any size gun, on a clip only has to grab it long enough to give a decent yank and its theirs. i cant in good conscience say other wise i think as holster makers we should be able to discuss openly and freely gun safety and the ability of your holster to keep your weapon safe and secure in a down and dirty tussle don't you? After all its the main job of the fighting type holster and the responsibility of the concealed carry owner. 

God bless you Pastor.

Well . . . I guess I see it from the other side of the tracks . . . 

Nobody is going to grab my gun . . . unless they take it out of my hand.  Reason??  I keep it securely and seriously out of sight to any and all who may be looking.

I carry concealed . . . as do virtually all of my customers . . . and the only time a perp should even know we have a gun is when he is looking at the hole in the end of the barrel and wondering if it is a 9, a 40, a 10mm, a 45 . . . or one of them .50 cal sodbuster guns.

I do fully appreciate the fact that there are people who would grab one any time they got the chance . . . and some of those folks are downright ugly, dirty, mean, and nasty.

I truly believe the odds are in the favor of the guy who keeps his cool . . . like the dude down in Tx (?) last week . . . in the taco joint . . . dude comes in and robs all the patrons . . . including our hero.  Our hero allows him to do what he wants until he seems to really threaten this other customer . . . hero pulls out the pistola and pops him 8 or 9 times . . . including a head buster on the ground.  Perp had no clue if hero's gun was in a holster . . . on a clip . . . or what . . . until it was too late . . . lead was flying and he was doing a serious internal bleeding program.

That is the scenario I make my customer's holsters for . . . keeping the peace thru effectively applied violence.

May God bless,

Dwight

[Burkhardt]

Have you used these or seen them? I like the fact that it's 4 holes spaced wider than the 2 next to each other.

https://www.springfieldleather.com/Clip-Belt-Wideback-Black

Edited January 11, 2023 by Burkhardt

[chiefjason]

On 1/9/2023 at 12:26 PM, chuck123wapati said:

Maybe you have my friend I'm not busting a gut Dwight but i am serious about the subject. Why?  I've just met people and seen things in life that most of the good people in the world haven't. A good healthy man wanting to take away any size gun, on a clip only has to grab it long enough to give a decent yank and its theirs. i cant in good conscience say other wise i think as holster makers we should be able to discuss openly and freely gun safety and the ability of your holster to keep your weapon safe and secure in a down and dirty tussle don't you? After all its the main job of the fighting type holster and the responsibility of the concealed carry owner. 

God bless you Pastor.

 

What's the difference in that or them just drawing it from your holster?  It's about the same amount of force for a level 1 holster.  Which most CC holsters are.  And someone with just a little skill can do it with a retention holster.  Had a cop take mine out of a SERPA scary fast.  And before anyone gets wound up he asked and I agreed since I needed the accident report he was getting ready to fill out for me.  And he was cool about the entire thing as well.  I would have had it secured but he got there way faster than I expected and I was outside the car.  

[chuck123wapati]

2 hours ago, chiefjason said:

What's the difference in that or them just drawing it from your holster?  It's about the same amount of force for a level 1 holster.  Which most CC holsters are.  And someone with just a little skill can do it with a retention holster.  Had a cop take mine out of a SERPA scary fast.  And before anyone gets wound up he asked and I agreed since I needed the accident report he was getting ready to fill out for me.  And he was cool about the entire thing as well.  I would have had it secured but he got there way faster than I expected and I was outside the car. 

 

 

You admit that it is easy and very possible to do so you want to make it easier? or the same easiness? or harder? sorry I don't see your point here.

 Maybe I'm ignorant to its value at the time of most need so I gave several of the cons of using one now give me  the pros. What makes it better than a loop on a holster you use in a defensive weapon scenario? 

I understand the issue however I'm that way with seatbelts I don't need the extra bit of safety  because I'm not planning to wreck and man all that work to buckle and unbuckle every time you want in or out. 

Bottom line friend is its your house paint it whatever color you want. 

 

[Double Daddy]

When I install a metal clip on a leather holster, I use the ones from HolsterSmith.com (they'll also hook you up with all the hardware needed...just tell them the thickness of leather you are working with). They look like the cheap ?FOMI? ones but they don't break...they allow you to take the rig on/off easily as necessary while holding securely to the gunbelt. I've made quite a few of these for folks and have never had complaints.

 

[chiefjason]

4 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

 

You admit that it is easy and very possible to do so you want to make it easier? or the same easiness? or harder? sorry I don't see your point here.

 Maybe I'm ignorant to its value at the time of most need so I gave several of the cons of using one now give me  the pros. What makes it better than a loop on a holster you use in a defensive weapon scenario? 

I understand the issue however I'm that way with seatbelts I don't need the extra bit of safety  because I'm not planning to wreck and man all that work to buckle and unbuckle every time you want in or out. 

Bottom line friend is its your house paint it whatever color you want. 

 

 

It's not easier IMO.  I'm saying it's all the same.  You mentioned earlier not thinking full circle.  So how hard is it to actually draw from one of your loop holsters?  I'm assuming as a level 1 holster it's just friction.  Meaning about the same effort as removing a clipped holster and gun.  Taking a concealed clipped on IWB holster from someone or drawing a gun from a concealed OWB holster; or even a looped on IWB holster is all about the same.  My IWB leather uses mostly nylon clips and they are downright annoying to remove when I want to take them off.  I use loops too.  I do whatever the customer wants because I see no difference in safety.  If someone has gotten that close and gotten their hands on the gun or holster is not the holster maker that has failed here.  

In the end I don't care what you or anyone else uses.  I just think your argument is false and only half thought through.  The other half being, exactly how hard is it to just draw a holstered firearm?  And is that draw stroke more difficult than removing a clipped on holster?  I don't think it is.  

Personally, if I'm going for a gun I'm going for the gun.  Not the holster.  I don't care how it's attached.  

[chuck123wapati]

8 minutes ago, chiefjason said:

 

 

Personally, if I'm going for a gun I'm going for the gun.  Not the holster.  I don't care how it's attached.  

I guess you have no pros to offer. 

my point exactly grab the gun held on by a secure loop you may not get it, grab a gun held on by a ten cent piece of tin or in the serpas case plastic you prolly will.

Bottom line friend is its your house paint it whatever color you want. I wont argue the point any longer the guy asked i gave my opinion, you can as well. 

Btw your Serpa has been banned by multiple law enforcement associations.