Manual machine

[kgg]

47 minutes ago, Danotriglide said:

Now this is frikkin’ awesome! Looks like a lot of 3d printing? 

Thank you. I do a fair bit of 3d for all my machines as that is also another hobby of mine. All machines due have their place but....

kgg

 

[Wyowally]

I also have one, the "10 bearing" model. Tinkerers delight is an appropriate term.  I am not a highly skilled leatherworker. If I had devoted the tinkering time it took to get the machine working to my satisfaction to learning leatherwork instead I would been expert.  As it is, I AM expert on these machines now. Not a very marketable skill. kgg and I can relate on this I believe.  For those interested or with the machine, the ORGAN brand DPX35D leather point needles work very well.  Chuck123wapati - fellow Wyo person - if I can advise you somehow on the machine let me know! Pic is a coozie I made with it just playing with scraps. Not ready for prime time.

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[kgg]

52 minutes ago, Wyowally said:

If I had devoted the tinkering time it took to get the machine working to my satisfaction to learning leatherwork instead I would been expert.

I think there a lot of these machines are gathering dust in basements as not everyone wants to go through the rebuild, tinkering process. The major downside I think is someone who could really do good items with a proper machine may become frustrated with this machine and consider all sewing machines to be as frustrating only to move onto another hobby.

52 minutes ago, Wyowally said:

kgg and I can relate on this I believe. 

Definitely.

kgg

[chuck123wapati]

1 hour ago, Wyowally said:

I also have one, the "10 bearing" model. Tinkerers delight is an appropriate term.  I am not a highly skilled leatherworker. If I had devoted the tinkering time it took to get the machine working to my satisfaction to learning leatherwork instead I would been expert.  As it is, I AM expert on these machines now. Not a very marketable skill. kgg and I can relate on this I believe.  For those interested or with the machine, the ORGAN brand DPX35D leather point needles work very well.  Chuck123wapati - fellow Wyo person - if I can advise you somehow on the machine let me know! Pic is a coozie I made with it just playing with scraps. Not ready for prime time.

thank you !!! i will .

[chuck123wapati]

1 hour ago, kgg said:

I think there a lot of these machines are gathering dust in basements as not everyone wants to go through the rebuild, tinkering process. The major downside I think is someone who could really do good items with a proper machine may become frustrated with this machine and consider all sewing machines to be as frustrating only to move onto another hobby.

Definitely.

kgg

Seems it works pretty well if you use it in lighter leathers. i see it as a way to get a better machine by utilizing it within its abilities.

 Then maybe mine will collect some dust too. lol but i doubt if i get it dialed in to a certain task i will get rid of it.

 

[Wyowally]

1 hour ago, chuck123wapati said:

Seems it works pretty well if you use it in lighter leathers. i see it as a way to get a better machine by utilizing it within its abilities.

 Then maybe mine will collect some dust too. lol but i doubt if i get it dialed in to a certain task i will get rid of it.

 

 

Here is about how thick I can sew veg tan without modding. Changed stitch length for the pic, it does go longer.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Wyowally
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[chuck123wapati]

3 minutes ago, Wyowally said:

 

that's about what i am getting also but it isn't as reliable at that thickness as i would like it yet. That thickness would be great i would have a lot more options. 

I'll be getting the longer needles next as you can in your photo that thickness is almost up to the taper of the needle, on mine if i go any thicker it sticks and raises the foot 

[TonyV]

I've found that adjusting the stitch length is how to use it on thicker leather.  Longer stitch length for thick material, short stitch for thin stuff.  The stitch control is that little bolt on the underside the arm.  A little turn is a fairly big adjustment.

I can't sew good straight lines with the patcher, so no good for presentable leather work, but I do use it for repairing various things, from my denim jeans to the dog's seat cover in my truck, a pair of sneakers, etc..  In that regard it has actually paid for itself and its place under the bench.  But I have made a few little things, a hatchet sheath, a key fob a knife sheath.  They came out ok, just not ready for prime time.  I don't believe it is intended for production, only repair.  And for that, it works just fine (once you go through the learning curve and tinkering phase).

Even my lousy hand stitching is better than the patcher, not because it doesn't sew, but because it is so difficult to control the work piece with one hand while the other hand is cranking the handle.  If it were motorized I would have both hands available to manage the work piece and it would perform much better. 

[kgg]

14 hours ago, TonyV said:

I can't sew good straight lines with the patcher

 

14 hours ago, TonyV said:

Even my lousy hand stitching is better than the patcher, not because it doesn't sew, but because it is so difficult to control the work piece with one hand while the other hand is cranking the handle. 

To help with this you could fashion up a edge guide mounted to a little table surface. Don't use a magnetic edge guide on the nose area as it will lift the bobbin up and fowl the bobbin stitches.

kgg

[chuck123wapati]

33 minutes ago, kgg said:

 

To help with this you could fashion up a edge guide mounted to a little table surface. Don't use a magnetic edge guide on the nose area as it will lift the bobbin up and fowl the bobbin stitches.

kgg

i can go slow enough to place the needle in a crease and still out sew myself ten times over. An edge guide is on the list as well.