Can of worms

[Frodo]

A can of worms has been opened and it is a subject that needs to be discussed

carving leather vs stamping leather

 basically my question is 

Are they artistically equal in skills ?

 

 

[Garyak]

4 minutes ago, Frodo said:

A can of worms has been opened and it is a subject that needs to be discussed

carving leather vs stamping leather

 basically my question is 

Are they artistically equal in skills ?

 

 

Man brother, every time I’m carving leather there’s a lot of stamping going down too. So it’s all the same too me. 

[AlZilla]

24 minutes ago, Frodo said:

A can of worms has been opened and it is a subject that needs to be discussed

carving leather vs stamping leather

 basically my question is 

Are they artistically equal in skills ?

 

 

Not to me. You can stamp w/o carving, but not the other way around. Carving takes more hand/eye coordination.

[Handstitched]

When it comes to carving or stamping, the sky is the limit .  You can be artistic with either. You can incorporate both if you wish. I often doodle with tools  on scraps with designs( either carved or stamped)  that I thought of. If they look good , I go with it.  Theres certainly a sense of individuality when you come up with your own designs. Its yours, and no one elses 

HS

[PastorBob]

1 hour ago, Handstitched said:

When it comes to carving or stamping, the sky is the limit .  You can be artistic with either. You can incorporate both if you wish. I often doodle with tools  on scraps with designs( either carved or stamped)  that I thought of. If they look good , I go with it.  Theres certainly a sense of individuality when you come up with your own designs. Its yours, and no one elses 

HS

I have to agree.  Keep in mind, folks outside of leather are not familiar with the tasks required to get the intended results.  i have seen folks go gaa gaa over an embossed belt.  I just recently finished a dog leash with a simple meander pattern.  Lots of folks really liked it.  On the other hand, I have spent quite a bit of time with a scrap piece of leather either carving patterns or stamping patterns trying to come up with one I haven't done before.  

[Gosut]

6 hours ago, Frodo said:

A can of worms has been opened and it is a subject that needs to be discussed

carving leather vs stamping leather

 basically my question is 

Are they artistically equal in skills ?

 

 

As someone who likely could do neither, would think so. You have to know how to apply stamps in a visually pleasing way.

[Gosut]

6 hours ago, AlZilla said:

Not to me. You can stamp w/o carving, but not the other way around. Carving takes more hand/eye coordination.

Eye/hand coordination is a skill and a part of artistic expression, but maybe isn't art in of itself. One could cut a curve or maybe under something freehand, but still not know how to make a visually pleasing carving. The visually pleasing aspect is the art.

[PastorBob]

6 minutes ago, Gosut said:

Eye/hand coordination is a skill and a part of artistic expression, but maybe isn't art in of itself. One could cut a curve or maybe under something freehand, but still not know how to make a visually pleasing carving. The visually pleasing aspect is the art.

That's a great point.

[chuck123wapati]

 

Pretty easy to tell carve something then stamp something  and see which is easier to make look good.

Learning to tool a flower  compared to grabing a stamp of a flower and whacking it. 

design concepts are obviously needed for both to look good but they don't compare in ability.

 I can stamp a design in a few minutes however carving and tooling a design takes more time and skill.

Think of it this way Don Gonzales makes a bill fold hand tooled exactly as the one i did, which would be worth more. it takes skill eye hand coordination, experience and about a dozen other thing s to make your tooling look good it is an ART.  Stamping is stamping its more of a craft that's why Tandy calls them crafttools lol.

 

[Frodo]

I disagree with my brother from another mother

you can not make a flower by simply wracking a stamp. You have to design the flower using various tools

the art of it Is eye hand coordination. you use both of those to keep the stamp lined up and centered

I think carving is just a different avenue than stamping neither are more or less important than the other