Angled stitches with round stitching holes - how do I do that?

[SUP]

Angled stitches with Diamond chisel or French chisel punched holes are something I can do relatively well now. However, some patterns that I buy have round holes which result in straight stitches. There is one pattern on which I want the stitches to be angled. I do have the correct sized diamond stitching chisels but the pattern is a little complicated and I am concerned that I will punch the pieces in the wrong direction and make a mess of it. I do not have spare leather  of that specific type for corrections.

So I'm wondering if there is a way to get some angle on the stitches when the punched holes are round? I have a vague recollection of a video somewhere that showed how to do it but I can't, for the life of me, find it.

Anyone who knows how to do this, could yo please guide me?

[Northmount]

2 minutes ago, SUP said:

I'm wondering if there is a way to get some angle on the stitches when the punched holes are round?

Moved your post to Sewing Leather.  Have you checked this forum?  I think I recall instructions (hopefully here) about getting a nice angle.

[SUP]

@Northmount, thank you. I should have thought of that.

I have but not found anything specifically for angled stitches with round stitching holes. Maybe my search terms need to be better.

[DieselTech]

Yeah I think I seen that same video. It talks about achieving a angle stitch with round holes. 

But i of course cant think of it as well. 

I do remember it's all about your cast over thread & how you cast it over your needle. Also it talks about the direction the threads are pulled/tightened when pulling up the stitch. 

I think 1 thread needs pulled up high & to the right, while the left thread is pulled down & to the left. 

[SUP]

@DieselTech Yes I remember that it is all about the casting and how to pull the thread. I am still searching. It should be somewhere.

[Northmount]

23 minutes ago, SUP said:

@DieselTech Yes I remember that it is all about the casting and how to pull the thread. I am still searching. It should be somewhere.

Try this google search without the quotes - "site:leatherworker.net cast stitches angle"

[SUP]

@Northmount Thank you. I'll try that.

[SUP]

Found it!I had it in my collection of videos.  It is a video by Nigel Armitage - at around 8 1/2 minutes.

 

Edited March 20, 2024 by SUP

[NatesLeatherGds]

6 hours ago, SUP said:

Found it!I had it in my collection of videos.  It is a video by Nigel Armitage - at around 8 1/2 minutes.

So... I have to give the greatest shoutout to this forum and this thread and SUP and Nigel for a problem I have had for 10 years : nice diagonal stitches on round hole punched items.

Basically -- I am left handed, and come in on initial cast from the left, and always have gone under. All stitching looked like the first few holes Nigel stitched. I decided there was no way to do diagonal stitches with round holes. 

I watched this video and I saw it COULD be done -- so assuming I was doing something wrong that I had been doing since the beginning, and knowing my left handedness might have something to do with it...  I modified my cast to pass the first needle OVER the second needle, then back through for standard knot. 

Voila - perfect diagonal stitches with round hole punches. (Still need to dial in spacing and tension, but primary mechanics are in place!)

Clouds parted, sun shining and a 10 year problem solved. 

 

 

 

[SUP]

@NatesLeatherGds  .