clearest explanations for making Turksheads

[acox4t4]

Has anyone used with good results or heard of anyone using with good results a book called the Turks Head Cookbook?? Or used the Tool (mandrel) that also comes with the book? http://knottool.com/ordering.html this is the web site that I saw it on. I was thinking of ordering the book and tool to try and help me learn faster, easier since right now I will do it right one time but take a wrong move on the next try. So hoping to get a bit more consistant so that I can actually get a project finished. I'm greatly enjoying trying to learn how to braid and make knots, the more I can keep my hands full of lace the less food I have put in my mouth . Lost 30 lbs so far. So just wanting to see if anyone else has tried the book and tool to see what their take is on it. Thanks. Annette

[roo4u]

i have looked at that website a few times...and yes it would help you learn to tie turksheads if your having trouble forming the bights. i think some of it depends on what type of learner you are and if you can learn from a book. i have not seen the th cookbook perhaps brian from khww.net would know something more about it. maybe try posting a new topic about it and see what responses you can get.

[Hell Bent 4 Leather]

Here's another video for making a turks head knot that I found. I couldn't get the other two vids in this thread to play, probably my compter, takes forever just to load one of these mesage boards. (no I don't have dial up, so that's not the problem)

[Sovran81]

I learned the 5 x 6 turk that Bernie has in the above vids and can pretty much do it without thought. I recently found Dracs old post with tutorial on the turk he cant identify (http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=431&st=0&p=24535&hl=floggers&fromsearch=1entry24535 ) . LOL He isnt the only one. Anyway in bernies vid he goes over 2 stands in 2 different sections of the knot before the interweave. Drac shows you where to go over the 2 strands 1 time. I have tried the Drac method a dozen times or more. the knot come out looking really good for a while. Everything is centered and square, it seems like it is finish perfect. Then it all goes to $h1T. It fails at the same point every time. I am pretty sure this knot needs a 2nd set of over two strands, but I havent got a clue where. Each time it failed I backed up a few and tried it somewhat different with no luck at all. Can anyone out there point me in the right direction?

[webothfarms]

Hi Annette,

I have the first book, the second book and the tool. I have to say I have been tying turksheads for ages and I learned more from Bruce Grant's great book " Encyclopedia of Rawhide and Leather Braiding". It's not that the cook books aren't good, but I think you need a basic understanding of how the knots form up. The tool makes it easy to see where the parts and bights are, but taking the knot off the tool and forming it around whatever you are covering is a frig. Also, if you are making a knot around something that isn't open, like a steering wheel as opposed to a whip handle, the tool is not the tool and you have to revert to either Grant or Ashley ( Ashley Book of Knots). All that being said, the Cookbooks are great for trying new knots. But go through Grant first...

Ponylady

Has anyone used with good results or heard of anyone using with good results a book called the Turks Head Cookbook?? Or used the Tool (mandrel) that also comes with the book? http://knottool.com/ordering.html this is the web site that I saw it on. I was thinking of ordering the book and tool to try and help me learn faster, easier since right now I will do it right one time but take a wrong move on the next try. So hoping to get a bit more consistant so that I can actually get a project finished. I'm greatly enjoying trying to learn how to braid and make knots, the more I can keep my hands full of lace the less food I have put in my mouth . Lost 30 lbs so far. So just wanting to see if anyone else has tried the book and tool to see what their take is on it. Thanks. Annette

[sos]

• I'm always checking back here ... can someone repost the documents ... there's one missing or broken link (I think). I've never been able to make heads or tails of it - because it feels like I'm missing a step.

I see people talking about the math, I'm rather curious about this ... is this math for keeping the braids without spaces or how much leather you need to cut? ...because I'd love to see the formula's on how much leather to cut!

[King's X]

The documents are available in the first and third post at the beginning.

[Davis Livestock]

I understand the general idea behind the Turks head and have tied a bunch of them in the over one under one fashion but I see some of the better braiders using an under 2 over 2 knot or over 3 under 3. I haven't been able to find any videos on this is the concept bad ally the same? Any advice or links would be appreciated.

[oltoot]

Just have to say this: I am amazed that somebody as klutzy as me could learn to tie these turksheads and make the interweaves but I am positively overwhelmed to think that somebody with no books to read and no coaches could figure out how to do them in the first place. And as to the math, I and I'll bet many others who braid can barely balance my checkbook. In a word WOW

[bucksnort]

What your looking for is directions for a pineapple knot or a gaucho knot. I think if you search this forum there are some tutorials. The turkshead is the base & then the interweave completes the knot. Most braiding books have directions, some better than others. Bryan Neubert's video is great. It seems I've seen tutorials on here by Alan Bell & Leatherpownder that are good.ope this helps. Buck