Need to sew patches . . . help!!

[Dwight]

I am looking to get into the patch business as the last one in this area just up and quit.

I need suggestions for a patch machine . . . and a quick couple of paragraphs on how they work.

Thanks, may God bless,

Dwight

[Northmount]

Moved your post to leather sewing machines.  You are looking for a patcher.  @Wizcrafts has lots of experience with sewing patches and can tell you about it (and of course, lots about sewing machines).

 

[kgg]

26 minutes ago, Dwight said:

I need suggestions for a patch machine

I would suggest a long arm in a used machine Singer 29k-72 or 73 the only difference being the end of the cylinder bed are slightly different. As for new there are to many clones available so just go with who gives the best price and after support.

You might also want to contact the person who just up and quit and see what equipment they have that maybe for sale.

@Wizcrafts should be able to provide good sound guidance.

kgg

Edited Sunday at 05:22 PM by kgg

[chuck123wapati]

41 minutes ago, Dwight said:

I am looking to get into the patch business as the last one in this area just up and quit.

I need suggestions for a patch machine . . . and a quick couple of paragraphs on how they work.

Thanks, may God bless,

Dwight

If you didn't think of this already. Call him and buy his machines if you can.

[Cumberland Highpower]

Are you wanting a machine to sew patches onto jackets or whatever, or are you looking for a cnc machine to sew/make patches?

If you're sewin them onto jackets, a shoe patcher or a high post machine (or both) would be great.

Edited Sunday at 11:15 PM by Cumberland Highpower

[Dwight]

14 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said:

Are you wanting a machine to sew patches onto jackets or whatever, or are you looking for a cnc machine to sew/make patches?

If you're sewin them onto jackets, a shoe patcher or a high post machine (or both) would be great.

Just to sew them on shirts . . . jackets . . . vests . . . etc.

May God bless,

Dwight

[Wizcrafts]

1 hour ago, Dwight said:

Just to sew them on shirts . . . jackets . . . vests . . . etc.

May God bless,

Dwight

Hey, Dwight! I'm your Huckleberry!

I've been sewing patches for bikers for a decade now. I use a patcher, a flat bed and a post machine depending on how the sewing needs to be done. Here's the breakdown.

If the patch is on the back, or upper fronts, and there is no pocket or zip open liner behind it, I use a long bed flat bed Singer 139. It doesn't have reverse, but I sew all the way around the patches. No reverse is needed as the starting stitches are covered by at least 6 to 8 going over them.

If the vest (cut) or jacket has a pocket to deal with, I use my Adler 30-7 long arm, big bobbin, high lift patcher. It easily gets into pockets and zip open linings.

If the sewing is around the vicinity of the arm holes, I tend to use a post machine. It's much easier to turn the vest around the post with the excess hanging down that to fight with a flat bed or patcher. An example of when I use the post machine is when I'm sewing flags or club names, or office positions onto the upper shoulder, in the narrow area between the front and back seams.

I use double-sided leather tape from Wawak to hold the patches in place for sewing. If the back is extra flimsy, or is made of denim, I also use a long body office stapler to keep the patch and material lined up.

Next, I prefer to use #69 bonded thread with a #18 needle, unless it is on a jacket or padded vest. Then I'll use #92 with a #19 needle.

As for the needles, I have learned to use round point needles when sewing any patch that has a serged or embroidered edge. This is because a leather point needle will slice the closely sewn edge thread whereas the round point just goes between them. The leather under the patch doesn't care about the needle. It is garment leather.

If your machine takes a needle system that is available in titanium coated needles, buy those whenever possible. This really comes in handy if you are sewing through double-sided tape. I also keep a little can of Goof Off and a dauber near my machines so I can clear any glue or tape residue off the needle.

If your patcher has a lube pot, fill it with clear liquid silicon to keep the top thread from sticking to the eye of the needle.

While at Wawak, buy some steel thread snips. Put magnets on the body of your machines and let them hold the snips and threaders, bobbins, etc.

Wind extra bobbins in advance so you don't have a lot of downtime when you run out of bobbin thread. Prewounds go a long way if they are available for your machine(s).

That's all I've got to say about tha-at!

[Darren Brosowski]

One of these will do the job at a reasonable cost 

[Dwight]

15 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Hey, Dwight! I'm your Huckleberry!

I've been sewing patches for bikers for a decade now. I use a patcher, a flat bed and a post machine depending on how the sewing needs to be done. Here's the breakdown.

 

I have a fairly new Singer . . . table top portable machine . . . it will do embroidery and a bunch of other stuff . . . I bought it with the eye on the 90 day "send it back if it don't work" idea I had with the seller.  I was looking for something that could sew two layers of suede or maybe 2/3 oz veggie tan.  When I use it . . . I mostly use carpet thread . . . and it has surprised my britches off at the things it has done or will do.

Anything in a shirt or light jacket . . . it'll handle it . . . no sweat.  I used it to put my E-6 Navy patch on my short sleeve white shirt.  Name tags . . . and the like are a piece of cake with that machine.

I wanted to add to the group . . . the below picture . . . mostly for jackets and stuff . . . biker work . . . etc.

I live between two towns of of 45K and 35K . . . with lots of police, military reserve, national  guard, etc . . . and from the research I've done so far . . . I'd have it all to myself and the little old ladies with their thimbles.  Plus there is a huge Harley place a 1/2 hour away . . . and 5 different state prisons plus three county lockups . . . and all them folks need patches sewn on.

I wouldn't make a living at it . . . but at a minimum of $5 for the first one and 10 bucks an hour for the rest . . . I was looking at a nice extra few bucks . . . and I don't have to create anything here . . . just stitch the dude down.

Most of it hinges on two "interviews" I have to do with a couple of dry cleaner shops.  If I can become their supplier . . . I'd be looking at maybe a 100 a month average.

May God bless,

Dwight

[kgg]

3 hours ago, Dwight said:

I wanted to add to the group . . . the below picture . . . mostly for jackets and stuff . . . biker work . . . etc.

The photo of the Singer clone appears to be sorta kinda like the Singer 29K71 short arm, small bobbin, with side wheel. What is the asking price for this clone ( probably made in China). 

Info from this website: ( https://www.siruba.co.uk/Singer 29K Instructions.pdf )

MACHINE 29K71 (Was 29K53)
End of cylinder bed is 1 inch wide and 7/8 inch deep.
Space at right of need1e 12- 1/4 inches.
Diameters of belt grooves 2-7/8 inches and 4-7/8 inches.

MACHINE 29K72
End of cylinder bed is 1-5/32 inches wide and 1-1/16 inche5 deep.
Space at right of needle 17-1/2 inches.
Diameters of belt grooves 3-1/4 inches and 5.1/2 inches.
Large Bobbin.

MACHINE 29K73
End of cylinder bed is 1 inch wide and 7/8 inch deep.
Space at right of needle 17-1/2 inches.
Diameters of belt grooves 3-1/4 inches and 5-1/2 inches.

kgg