mikesc Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 No , they are not..Singer made millions of domestic machines in black, but the people selling any black singer ( domestic models included ) invariably describe them as "industrial" , or "industrial strength", or "for sewing leather"..most of those people are quite simply lying about the machine that they are selling..true industrial models are bigger, waaaay more solid, and amongst the true industrial ones ( most of which were designed to sew textiles) those that were designed to sew leather are specialised ..machines designed to sew leather can usually sew heavy textiles very well, not all machines designed to sew heavy textiles can sew even light weight leather well. Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members TinkerTailor Posted October 21, 2016 Members Report Posted October 21, 2016 What he said ^^^^^ Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members cdthayer Posted October 21, 2016 Members Report Posted October 21, 2016 22 hours ago, TinkerTailor said: Part of a 1939 photo documentary of a texas boot factory: Interesting old photos. Thanks for showing them. Any idea what models of machines those are? One looks like a Wheeler and Wilson, and the other one is a Singer, but what model? CD in Oklahoma Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
Members TinkerTailor Posted October 21, 2016 Members Report Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, cdthayer said: Interesting old photos. Thanks for showing them. Any idea what models of machines those are? One looks like a Wheeler and Wilson, and the other one is a Singer, but what model? CD in Oklahoma I am pretty sure it is the same machine at different angles and my guess would be a 31k17 or a 31k18 because they are the roller foot leather classed 31k machines. The 31k18 is a roller fed machine and the 17 is a drop feed. Can't see the feed dogs in the pic.The only info in the captions is it is a 31k. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members cdthayer Posted October 21, 2016 Members Report Posted October 21, 2016 9 hours ago, TinkerTailor said: The only info in the captions is it is a 31k. Interesting. A Singer 31K with an inlay medallion in the bed. CD in Oklahoma Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
MADMAX22 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Posted October 22, 2016 10 hours ago, TinkerTailor said: I am pretty sure it is the same machine at different angles and my guess would be a 31k17 or a 31k18 because they are the roller foot leather classed 31k machines. The 31k18 is a roller fed machine and the 17 is a drop feed. Can't see the feed dogs in the pic.The only info in the captions is it is a 31k. Looking at the ISMACs it looks more like the 31-28 or one of the 31-28 thru 31-30s. The 31-28 was for boot tops and such and had the tensioner in the proper position. Quote
Members Darren Brosowski Posted October 25, 2016 Members Report Posted October 25, 2016 On 21/10/2016 at 0:33 AM, TinkerTailor said: Part of a 1939 photo documentary of a texas boot factory: That machine looks like a Singer 9 which is the Weeler and Wilson 9 that Singer kept building after they bought the company. It was popular because it was a rotary shuttle when Singer built oscillating shuttle machines up until the introduction of the 101/201 class. There was a rotary shuttle 15 class but they are as rare as rocking horse poop. Quote
Members Darren Brosowski Posted October 25, 2016 Members Report Posted October 25, 2016 On 22/10/2016 at 0:21 AM, TinkerTailor said: I am pretty sure it is the same machine at different angles and my guess would be a 31k17 or a 31k18 because they are the roller foot leather classed 31k machines. The 31k18 is a roller fed machine and the 17 is a drop feed. Can't see the feed dogs in the pic.The only info in the captions is it is a 31k. Not a 31k as the tension is on the face plate and not the front. Body shape is totally wrong for a 31 class. Quote
Members cdthayer Posted October 25, 2016 Members Report Posted October 25, 2016 4 hours ago, Darren Brosowski said: looks like a Singer 9 which is the Weeler and Wilson 9 that Singer kept building after they bought the company The face plates look kind of like a W&W D-9 and a Singer 9W, but did they have those models with knee-lift presser bar linkage on the back of the arm? Also, it looks like only one of the machines has decal decorations on the inside of the pillar. I don’t see any trace of decals on the other machine pillar. 4 hours ago, Darren Brosowski said: There was a rotary shuttle 15 class but they are as rare as rocking horse poop. Are you referring to the Singer 115? CD in Oklahoma Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
Members TinkerTailor Posted October 25, 2016 Members Report Posted October 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, cdthayer said: The face plates look kind of like a W&W D-9 and a Singer 9W, but did they have those models with knee-lift presser bar linkage on the back of the arm? Also, it looks like only one of the machines has decal decorations on the inside of the pillar. I don’t see any trace of decals on the other machine pillar. Are you referring to the Singer 115? CD in Oklahoma I think you may have figured it out. Thanks, that is awesome. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
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