Members suncoastleather Posted December 31, 2010 Members Report Posted December 31, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/user/svartatt?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/Zazl4zU5cHM Quote
Members Lucas Posted December 31, 2010 Members Report Posted December 31, 2010 A needle scaler with different bits adapted to it? Interesting concept I'm sure that some out there could use it to great effect, not sure if I'd be one of them. Quote
Members Spinner Posted December 31, 2010 Members Report Posted December 31, 2010 I can't see the video but wood carvers have had something that could easily be adapted for leather tools for years and works with dremels, bosch, etc. high speed tools: http://www.treelineusa.com/power-carving/reciprocating Quote
Members joquarter Posted December 31, 2010 Members Report Posted December 31, 2010 Nice idea , but I think you miss the fun of creating something with you 're own hands . Quote
Members BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted January 1, 2011 Members Report Posted January 1, 2011 If it wasn't so bulky I could see this as an option for handicapped folks. If ya only have one arm it is kind of hard to do any hammering. I wouldn't say that it helped his work any. Looks like it pounded the snot out it. Quote
Members Spinner Posted January 1, 2011 Members Report Posted January 1, 2011 Finally got to see the video...and the price. $248?! WOW... $18 air saw from Harbor Freight $7 inline air flow regulator w/gauge $6 for drill bit to drill out the bit shaft of the saw $5 screwdriver to remove the safety cover from the top of the saw 30 minutes labor Think I'll stick with my maul.... Quote
electrathon Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 I think the trouble is that this is an inline saber saw. The stroke is so long on it that there is no way to do clean work. Even looking at the work he is demonstrating on his edges are irregular and distorted. If you are going to do something like this a palm nailer modified to hold a beveler would be far better. It has a very short stroke, so your tool would not be jumping back and forth almost an inch. http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-air-hand-nailer-99555.html Aaron Quote
mendedbowl Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 It might be useful for someone who does a lot of straight line beveling, maybe to replace a push beveler. I can't see it being very good for detail work. In the video it looked like he needed both hands to control it, and it still looked like it was all over the place. I'd like to hear somebody's opinion who has one. ken Quote
Contributing Member Jordan Posted January 2, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted January 2, 2011 Interesting idea but control would be a steep learning curve I think. For handicapped it would seem to be difficult to use. Could a modified foot treadle and an arbor press be utilized for better control in both placement and down pressure of the stamping tools? especially for someone that can use only one hand. Quote
BearMan Posted January 2, 2011 Report Posted January 2, 2011 Another thing to consider,, the noise factor. With the compressor going, & the noise from the "tool",,, that's a Lot of noise! If you live in an apartment,, I'm sure your neighgors would just Love you. Ed Quote
Contributing Member BillB Posted January 2, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted January 2, 2011 Oscillating tools (air powered or electrical powered) have been around for some time. Some of them good and some of them not so good. When I received my Uncle's leather tools they included a Burgess Vibro Tool. It dates from the 1940s or 1950s and still works. It does make noise, but that is primarily due to its age. With todays electrical components one could be made that would be very quite. I have also seen an engraver using a pneumatic vibrator about 1 inch in size to do fine engraving on gun barrels, etc. His was powered by a small modelers air compressor that would fit in my hand and did not make a lot of noise. Of course its size did not require a lot of air volume either. Some times we forget that tools are developed to help make "work" easier. We don't use rocks for hammers, flint knives for cutting (though the bones knives are rather nice), and we don' fashion our bevels and other "tools" out of wood or soft metals. Some folks have gone as far as using lasers to create the patterns. I use both needle and thread and an electric sewing machine. I really don't know what the term "Hand" crafted means anymore so I tend not to use it. Nor do I want to start another long discussion on that term. Just presenting food for thought. As for me I will continue to design and craft products for my customers, one at a time. BillB Sorry about not having the picture of the Burgess Vibro Tool on my last post. Here it is. Bill B Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted January 2, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted January 2, 2011 Another factor for consideration is the eventual nerve damage caused by LOTS of vibration. It tends to desensitize one's hands.....which is why there's always a market for "better" tools. For the tool in question, I could see it useful for a lot of beveling in straight runs, or perhaps a really large amount of backgrounding.....and that's about it. So much of what we do is in the details that speed is only acquired through practice. Now, something like a spring punch would, I think, be useful for single handed stamping. Quote
Members whinewine Posted January 2, 2011 Members Report Posted January 2, 2011 It just looks very cumbersome, and being cumbersome, it would over time become heavy & hard to use, especially with the vibration factor. Quote
Suze Posted January 2, 2011 Report Posted January 2, 2011 looks like it would be hard to control and really his work doesn't have a "craftsman" finish (looks sort of "wal-mart quality" to me) you know get it done and get it done fast - costomers will never notice kind of thing. If I am Paying BIG bucks for something -- I want it to look really GOOD not slapdash Quote
Members Vikti Posted January 3, 2011 Members Report Posted January 3, 2011 I watched a couple of his videos showing this tool. While I know that there are times when we use a beveler on an area where we didn't cut the leather to get certain effects but there is very little carving that I saw on his videos. On some of his work he shows images that really needed to be carved before beveling and some of that looks real bad. Good intentions but, I think, bad implementation. Quote
Members jeffroberts Posted January 4, 2011 Members Report Posted January 4, 2011 I got into the craft to explore what I can create with my brain and two hands, part of the joy is creating certain hands tools as I need them, learning the swivel knife and the never ending practice of hand stitching ! Bottom line is my shop is quiet and peaceful with a little background of soft classic rock which seems to foster the creative process after watching you guys / gals here foe inspiration. Peace / jeff Quote
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