Members WinterBear Posted October 13, 2011 Members Report Posted October 13, 2011 Around here, I don't think most of the riders who have a fancy floral Sheridan saddle get much lip--or the "lipper" only does it once. Someone who can afford and appreciate a Sheridan saddle spends a lot of time on a horse, and tends to be tough and quick. You don't try to pick a fight with them without finding yourself lying on the ground and wondering how you got there and why your teeth are lying next to you. Ok, ok, back to the bag. I have a question for you American guys then. Would any of you carry it if it was bigger (more of a briefcase or messenger bag size), had wider straps, was dark brown or black, was more utilitarian in structure and design, and had no decorative work? Quote I used to be an Eagle, a good ol' Eagle too...
Members ramrod Posted October 14, 2011 Members Report Posted October 14, 2011 Just a curious observation: So a man riding/sitting on a saddle covered with lots of floral, swirly, Sheridan-style acanthus-type designs in a natural color is considered riding something that is 'masculine', and yet a guy carrying a simple bag (most probably carrying a small laptop, or a Tablet, or notebook) in the same color with a minimalist bit of design on the flap is 'girly'? IF the bag were covered in the above noted, swirly floral/acanthus designs, would it then be masculine, like the saddle? Just wondering...lol i totally agree with this! i have often thought about the florals on a holster or a saddle where the object itself is viewed as being masculine, but the decoration is feminine. it's really a dichotomy. as for the shoes shown, i love (and own) a pair of wingtips. i think they're beautifully designed even if perhaps they are a bit "frilly". now, having said that, i totally appreciate the design and work that has gone into a beautifully made holster or saddle. but my taste is a bit more industrial. o.k......hijack over. that is a beautiful design, edvin. Quote
Moderator Art Posted October 14, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 14, 2011 No, it is the style of the bag, not the decoration. Briefcase, bookbag, saddlebags, are all Ok, even a computer over the shoulder bag nowadays, but NOT a purse or "man bag". I do prefer some to full decoration on saddles and holsters and gunbelts. Besides, what the hell do some of these guys put in those man bags? I know for a fact some of them wouldn't know what to do with a computer. I'm old school, spectacles, handkerchief, wallet, and watch. That's all I need. Art Around here, I don't think most of the riders who have a fancy floral Sheridan saddle get much lip--or the "lipper" only does it once. Someone who can afford and appreciate a Sheridan saddle spends a lot of time on a horse, and tends to be tough and quick. You don't try to pick a fight with them without finding yourself lying on the ground and wondering how you got there and why your teeth are lying next to you. Ok, ok, back to the bag. I have a question for you American guys then. Would any of you carry it if it was bigger (more of a briefcase or messenger bag size), had wider straps, was dark brown or black, was more utilitarian in structure and design, and had no decorative work? Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members devilishprincess Posted October 17, 2011 Members Report Posted October 17, 2011 the bag is gorgeous! *drooling* Quote
JohnBarton Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) The design is nice. I don't see it as modern though primarily because of the way that straps and buckles are done. Also the shoulder strap is far too thin to be worn comfortably. Load some weight in there like a laptop and carry it for about ten minutes and I bet you will already be shifting it to another spot. Is this laptop size? I think that perhaps the pictures are deceiving because we don't see it contrasted against a laptop. At laptop size it's a normal thing for a guy to be carrying around. Smaller than that is out of fashion for men in most places. In China however it's common to see men carrying what looks like smaller versions of messenger bags for their stuff, or "murses" as they are derisively called in the USA. I think that as Ipads and the like become more popular then bags for that size will also become more acceptable for men to carry around. Anyway it's nice to a see a project in leather done for an industrial design task. Very cool and thank you very much for sharing. I love to find new things to use leather for and think that it's an underused material in industrial design. Good luck in your career! Should you ever need to find another place to take on some of your designs then feel free to contact us. www.jbcases.com John - Also American, Man, middle aged. Edited October 18, 2011 by JohnBarton Quote Support Quality. We are all humans. Buy the best no matter where it's made. That way everyone lives in harmony. Nature knows no flags.
Members Edvin Posted October 22, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 22, 2011 Thank you all for the comments! My final essay and project have been scrutinized and are on it´s way to be approved. I hope the bag will be in production next year. The criticism regarding the shoulder strap is well received. I did make final drawings for a removable shoulder bridge but did not have time to make one for the prototype. This will be improved in the final design together with a flexible insert to hold small items like chargers, business cards, pens and such. The shoulder bag is approximately 350 x 270 mm and made to fit international standard (ISO) paper size A4. My research indicated that most clients would like space to fit a folder or a lever arch file. Most medium and small laptops will also fit. I love the name "murses" John, I just might start using that. Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
BWL Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Flawless execution:thumbsup: Quote It's the impresion you leave that counts. Michael
David Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 Edvin, Beautiful design, beautifully executed. David Theobald BSID University of Cincinnati '69 Quote
Members srminimo Posted October 25, 2011 Members Report Posted October 25, 2011 Incredible work. I love the design, the choice of lining, and the hardware. Those strap ends are particularly cool. Quote
Members bondjunior23 Posted July 23, 2021 Members Report Posted July 23, 2021 On 10/22/2011 at 7:18 PM, Edvin said: Thank you all for the comments! My final essay and project have been scrutinized and are on it´s way to be approved. I hope the bag will be in production next year. The criticism regarding the shoulder strap is well received. I did make final drawings for a removable shoulder bridge but did not have time to make one for the prototype. This will be improved in the final design together with a flexible insert to hold small items like chargers, business cards, pens and such. The shoulder bag is approximately 350 x 270 mm and made to fit international standard (ISO) paper size A4. My research indicated that most clients would like space to fit a folder or a lever arch file. Most medium and small laptops will also fit. I love the name "murses" John, I just might start using that. Your work is amazing, and it's really nice that you can do it with your own hands. The fact that you can write an essay about it is also very nice. But still, I think when you're writing something like this - you have to consult with professional editors first. I am working with leather, and I am writing my thesis about it. And I always check my work on Essaygeeks Quote
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