What Is With This Site, Man?

[Buttons]

Really, simmer down.

[Cyberthrasher]

Electrathon - think about it. If we were able to edit our own posts indefinitely, the OP could have already gone back, re-written everything he said and made it sound like he wasn't an arrogant fool to begin with. I do think it would be nice to have a little more time to edit, but it's also our responsibility to proof what we type. I've already stopped 3 times while typing this to make sure that what I was saying was what I meant to say.

[electrathon]

Electrathon - think about it. If we were able to edit our own posts indefinitely, the OP could have already gone back, re-written everything he said and made it sound like he wasn't an arrogant fool to begin with. I do think it would be nice to have a little more time to edit, but it's also our responsibility to proof what we type. I've already stopped 3 times while typing this to make sure that what I was saying was what I meant to say.

That is what quotes are for. As I said earlier, allowing editing on ones posts are pretty much standard practice on forums (at least on the ones I have been on and the ones I have seen). If someone is donkey butt, then you quote them. It locks what they said so it can only be changed by both or a moderator. As far as I know, quoting to lock what they said is also pretty standard.

I think this is just one of those reminders to us that we are not at home. We are at someone elses house and to not get to comfortable. Coffie is offered to us to drimk, but don't get up to make your own. I do understand this. But I also feel very much at home here and sometimes need to be slapped back to remember that it is not my/our home. We are visiting. Don't get up to fix what is a problem, rather accept it and hope to find a work around. This is hard for me because I am a fix-it person. When I see something that needs fixing, it tend to try to do it. Heck, I have gone to weddings and ended up fixing someones car (I do not often wear white). Even in the attacks on new guy for complaining I saw people saying they felt it was wrong too, but shut up and do not rock the boat. They evidently did not feel at home either, but definatly wanted to continue hanging around.

I was not going to post any more in this thread, but comments were directed at me, so I felt I should answer.

[Ferg]

I may as well get into this:

I see all aspects of this and quite honestly I see very little wrong with the site and the manner in which it is handled.

I am a "Fix-it" also, I normally keep my hands off of what I have not been asked to fix unless it is in my shop.

I personally am very annoyed at the bad grammar, spelling, etc. There are folks with legitimate reasons for not spelling correctly but computers have excellent spell checkers and there are Dictionaries in existance to this day. I try very hard to keep my mouth shut regarding these deficiencies, if I do say something that annoys folks I am truly sorry. I say and do what I think is correct.

Other Forums:

I don't want to get started on this subject too much. I have been a member of many forums on many subjects. I have had several of my own. Automobile, CNC machines, Computers, Software, there are hundreds and hundreds if not thousands. Most have very few up to date posts. Some may even be several years old! I think the folks who are owners and admins of this forum do a great job. Kudos to all of you. I am not going anywhere, I love this community.

ferg

[prc77ro]

We are all individuals each with different opinions and different personalities so for everyone who has responded on this post to have the same opinion would be ludicrous. People are going to agreee with certain things and disagree with certain things, it all depends on who you are. When it comes to feeling at home, well, I feel at home in my house and joined Leatherworker.net to learn, improve my skills, ask those who have more experience questions, and maybe make a few friends along the way. I am not trying to offend anybody here but because you contribute, IMHO, doesn't mean you have ownership. If you feel that you should because you do well thats on you. If you contribute to The United Way would you feel ownership? I contribute to the Air Force Aid Society because it helps my fellow Airman when they or their familys are in need but I don't feel ownership. When every member, contributing or not, filled out the registration form and clicked submit you agreed to the conditions of this site. So I do agree with the statement that if you don't like how things are done here then move on. If your posting then you should proof your own work and if you misspell, use incorrect grammar, put up the wrong price then report it ask for it to be fixed or be quiet and accept it. I don't always spell everything correctly and I apoligize to anyone that bothers but this site is for leatherwork so as long as I get my point across I'm happy. This is a great community with wonderful people who are willing to help and give suggestions. Its ok to have differing opinions.

[Feraud]

There is "What you say" and there is "How you say it" .

Suggesting there should be a time period for members to edit posts for grammar, content, etc. is fine. I support this. Many forums allow a certain time period before posts are locked. I cannot tell you how many early morning and late night replies I've made on forums where I look back and wonder what was I trying to say?? Sometimes a bit of judicious editing and clarification is necessary.

There is nothing wrong in expressing this. However..Walking into a forum with its particular software set-up, regulations, social dynamic, etc. and launching into a tirade about how "screwy" they place is, and the moderators and members who are not online, and I don't care if this sells... is a load of baloney!

You're going to get a much needed strong response from the group.

[Spence]

We, as individuals, are responsible for what we say. So, before slamming down on the "Post" button, take a few seconds to go back and read what you wrote and make sure it's what you meant. And while you're at it, you can do your best to correct spelling and grammar errors.

I think this thread has run it's course by now, so I just want to shift focus a bit to the graphic backgrounds that seem to be popping up now and then. For me, they are distracting and, in most cases, hide the little stars that show me it's a thread I have posted in. Also, it is extremely difficult to see the poster's name.

This forum is run by volunteers and each and every one of them deserves our thanks, praise and respect for what they do. They have lives outside of this forum and that needs to be remembered.

Enough !! G'bye.

[raysouth]

Feraud, your statement is so true.

Okay folks, I screw up the grammar a bit, often negelect to check my work, make errors that I wish I had not made, BUT, I am what I am.

I know little about computing but places I can go, such as this site, are a fun thing for me. If I make a mistake, it is my fault, not the site or administrators.

Most of us are capable of understanding what the person was attempting to say and just pass over any mistakes. Not a bad thing and none of us are perfect.

I don't see spell checkers everwhere I go and wish they were automatically turned on when typing but not a complaint from me.

Perhaps it is an age thing, on my part, but life goes on, and is so short that good times are in order, and perfection is something we would all like to achieve but is somewhat elusive.

Be forgiving, don't worry about the small stuff and get something good out of what you have been invited to share.

My only worry is about using the only non-replaceable item in life, TIME, and I strive to make the day a pleasant experience for myself and others.

God Bless.

Ray

[Northmount]

I messed up a post a couple days ago. Over 2 hours later, I went back and found the edit button was still active, and it worked. I don't know how long the time-out is, but it is certainly longer than the 15 minutes or so I had understood previously.

So if you make a mistake or otherwise need to fix something in a post, you definitely have more than 15 minutes to do it. Hope this helps others that need to go back and fix something. The edit button is light gray text left of the Quote buttons. If you can see it, it is active and you can use it.

This is a great forum, has more input, great ideas, better behavior, less vulgar language, etc. than many other forums.

Have a great day everyone!

Tom

[Cyberthrasher]

Remember back when you had to talk to people on the phone (or god forbid in person) and you couldn't go back and change what you said? At that time, so long ago, we had to add to our statement and say "this is what I meant"........not sure why that doesn't work on a forum.

Or, how about your typos/mis-spoken words in email? What email client let's you go back and edit an email after it's been sent? Seems to me that the ability to edit your forum posts after the fact is a luxury that isn't really all that common in life.