New Dürkopp Adler 969 And 967 H Type Machines For X Heavy Work

[Trox]

Hello all sewing machine freaks.

I got an email from Thomas Brinkhoff: head of spare parts Dürkopp Adler(DA) today; about the new DA 969 H cylinderbed and 967 H flatbed machines.

These brand new H type machines are made for sewing extreme applications (such as our heavy leather work) and have a high foot lift of 30 mm. Uses a big shuttle hook and have many exiting new features. I do not know much about them yet, only what shows in their youtube video

http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/en/main/products/htype/969-190382.html

It seems like they have used the best from the 69 (60 series) and combined it with well proven arm and shuttle hook technology from the 205 class. I liked the little new hook thread guide/guard you see on the shuttle driver, that protects the thread from getting hooked by the bobbin spring. Why have not anybody thought about this before.

You can open the top of the head and get to the shafts, thats no reason for a all closed head like the old (read current) 205 and 441`s. It will still be a strong construction, the ones we uses today are more than hundred years old technology.

Never change a winning team/ construction, they say. When it comes to leather tools, OLD is GOOD. However, this new design looks good. Internal direct drive position motor of course, this is not news. The easy position adjustment wheel near the thread tensions are new (at least to me), I like this idea. This can also be used as an add on on any high end system motors (like Efka and Ho Sing, its a accurate pot meter connected to the motor control box).

As mention above I know very little about them and I have asked for more information, if I get it before its available on their web site; I will of course share it here.

It looks like DA has tried their best to make something for the saddler for a change, and its about time they did so too. The last one is a rebuilt needle feed from the 1980`ties (205-370), this is actually the first real triple feed X heavy cyl. bed machine Dürkopp Adler have ever made. Therefore, I hope they have made it affordable for the saddler too, I think they have to do just that to sell machines. Thats my opinion anyway, before knowing enough about them that is.

Anybody who have more info or opinions please let us know.

Thanks

Tor

[Trevor]

Nice machines. Love to own both of these but......HOW MUCH??? many $$$$$ I suspect from DA

[Trox]

Nice machines. Love to own both of these but......HOW MUCH??? many $$$$$ I suspect from DA

Well, there are Chinese business mens who are involved and they are making sewing machines to make money; to make money you need marked shares. The sewing machine dealers did not sell many heavy stitchers in the 6000 to 8000 $ range last year, it would not be smart to price them too high. They are made in China but they are new technology and the developments cost has to be covered. We cannot compare them to the cost of making copies without spare part programs. Its hard to predict what the price will be, even if its a product like no other it has to compete with whats on the marked today.

[The Dawg Club]

I hope the price is right too. I would love to own either one. My 867 feels great with this regular servo motor on it. Can't wait to get an Efka or Ho-sing for it. Please keep us updated with any info or price this machine might be.

Malik

[Constabulary]

Duuuuuude The Holy Grale of heavy duty sewing machines. Will this thing fly to the moon?

WOW - seems they have listen & learned. But thats far beyond from what I can afford. But an awesome machine with great features.

Question is will you ever get the money out of it with what you are producing on this machine?

[Trox]

If not all the way to the moon, is an impressing machine. Its being showed off on exhibitions as we speak, and it will be available for sales within a quarter of the year.

I do not know the price yet, the head of spare parts (Thomas Brinkhoff) ensures me that its parts will be affordable. I am talking about the price of accessories, hopefully it would not need much other parts yet.

I understand this have a bigger hook than todays standard (70% more capacity), 30 mm foot lift and can handle up thread size Nm 5/3 (tkt 5) TEX 600. It have 12 mm stitch length (15 on the flatbed) and a 12 mm sewing foot stroke (alternating height). We will get more information later and a comparison with Juki TSC 441.

If we read this data it has already out preformed the 441 and its leather clones. This is data direct from Dürkopp Adler who is known to be modest about their performance data. We have to remember the original Juki have only 20 mm foot lift, compared to that it a massive improvement. I know of no other cylinder bed (lock-stitch) who beats this data.

It looks to me that this machine do not need any modification, its all there from the factory. When it has a inbuilt motor it has to be prepared to plug and play direct in 110 V outlet too.

The only thing I know about the price is; that it is not built to compete with the clone machines.

I look forward to see it.

Thanks

Tor

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Yeah, saw this, too. Impressive looking machine, but 1st thing I though like many here "OK, what's the price?"

[Trox]

Yes that exiting, it will not be cheap. We will soon know the answer to this question.

Tor

[Singermania]

Well, there are Chinese business mens who are involved and they are making sewing machines to make money; to make money you need marked shares. The sewing machine dealers did not sell many heavy stitchers in the 6000 to 8000 $ range last year, it would not be smart to price them too high. They are made in China but they are new technology and the developments cost has to be covered. We cannot compare them to the cost of making copies without spare part programs. Its hard to predict what the price will be, even if its a product like no other it has to compete with whats on the marked today.

Hi Tor, so are you saying these new DAs are made in China to DA quality specs? Machines look nice, but maybe some of the ancillaries looked a bit Chinesie thin and looked like typical Chinese chrome work.... I hope DA is not going to produce a poor quality machine, if its in keeping with previous models with high quality metals and decent thicknesses of metal it will be a great thing. I would love to see one, if its quality is on a par with Seiko CH-8B and will sew thicker materials then I'm really pleased. Thanks for listing the videos.. really enjoyed them.. STeve

[Singermania]

This is my Adler-Kock 43-4 up the arm zig zag treadle machine, I've attached some photos to show the sort of quality that this company has produced in the past.....

oops looks like I put in a foto of an Adler 5-27 as well