Members truenorth Posted February 9, 2014 Members Report Posted February 9, 2014 My question was primarily for the control of the the brushless motors, does Toledo sell brushless motors?Are they better?Anybody use them?opinions?? Quote
Northmount Posted February 9, 2014 Report Posted February 9, 2014 Brush type servo motors are analog control. So the adjustment for speed is a potentiometer (adjustable resistance). You turn the knob to set the upper speed range. The others are digital servo control, brushless. They have a little display, use push button switches to make adjustments. I have both. Once you have the max speed set, you aren't likely need to adjust again for sometime. The potentiometer is easier to quickly adjust. The sewpro from Toledo has 3:1 gear reduction built in so has better low end torque. Depending on specific manufacturers, some digital servos have very good low end torque due the the capability of providing precisely controlled pulses and yet be able to maintain precise speed control. They are high end and cost substantially more. Tom Quote
Members Sunnyside Scott Posted February 9, 2014 Members Report Posted February 9, 2014 Brush type servo motors are analog control. So the adjustment for speed is a potentiometer (adjustable resistance). You turn the knob to set the upper speed range. The others are digital servo control, brushless. They have a little display, use push button switches to make adjustments. I have both. Once you have the max speed set, you aren't likely need to adjust again for sometime. The potentiometer is easier to quickly adjust. The sewpro from Toledo has 3:1 gear reduction built in so has better low end torque. Depending on specific manufacturers, some digital servos have very good low end torque due the the capability of providing precisely controlled pulses and yet be able to maintain precise speed control. They are high end and cost substantially more. Tom I would be interested in finding a brushless motor with the most torque with 115 volt input power. I currently have both styles but am looking for another brushless motor, possibly with needle positioner. Thanks guys Quote
Members Constabulary Posted February 9, 2014 Members Report Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) On the Enduro website they have mentioned the amount of torque of some of their motors. www.endurosaves.com They have some motors with 1400 Watts To me they all look the same (no matter if Consew or Enduro or other brands) and I guess they all come from the same factory (just a guess) and the servo motor "thing" is a bit confusing for me - somehow. EDIT: I just notice keysew has some of them: http://store.keysew.com/parts/industrial-sewing-machine-motors Edited February 9, 2014 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 9, 2014 Moderator Report Posted February 9, 2014 I'm sorry, but I'll need more information. The brake on the FS-550 is composed of 3.56672389725 mm thick, medium high density, extruded and composited, triple resublimated Thiotimoline. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
CowboyBob Posted February 9, 2014 Report Posted February 9, 2014 Some of our customers that used the brushless motors had problems with the chip going out in them & requiring a replacement.the analog type (FS-550) does not have that problem & the range of speed control is better on the foot pedal,the torque seems to be the same as the brushless. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members pcox Posted February 9, 2014 Members Report Posted February 9, 2014 I have both. Like the brush type/ analog best cheaper too. easier to control speed and plenty of torque Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 10, 2014 Moderator Report Posted February 10, 2014 I had to perform the stupid optical cheater trick on my previous digital servo motors in order to have good slow speed control. Not so on the FS-550. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members gottaknow Posted February 10, 2014 Members Report Posted February 10, 2014 The brake on the FS-550 is composed of 3.56672389725 mm thick, medium high density, extruded and composited, triple resublimated Thiotimoline. The brake on the FS-550 is composed of 3.56672389725 mm thick, medium high density, extruded and composited, triple resublimated Thiotimoline. Excellent! Quote
Members RoosterShooter Posted February 10, 2014 Author Members Report Posted February 10, 2014 I found a Yamata USA, Inc "Family" Fesm550N locally for $100. Will this work for my 211g151? Quote
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