Members tossik Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 Hi everyone, I have two very beautiful head knifes for sale. My brother made them based on designs found online. They are extreemely sharp. I can provide more pictures and videos per request. Details: Custom 5" head knifes for me. 15n20 steel from an old lumber mill saw. The top knife has exotic Bocote wood from Central America Bottom handle is from Chechen (Caribbean Rosewood) found in Cuba. Custom copper mosaic pins. 60-61 HRC (hardness). Asking $115 each w/ free shipping around USA. Paypal only. Please PM. Head Knife by Tolik Pugach, on Flickr
Members BondoBobCustomSaddles Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 Tossik, you are right, those are absolutely gorgeous! I would love to have them both, but; the timing isn't right for me just now. The price for them is certainly low, and I am sure you will have them sold quickly on this sight. There are always people looking for quality cutting tools and those are absolutely that. Bob
King's X Posted May 25, 2014 Report Posted May 25, 2014 I will take them....where do you want the money sent? I am buying them for one reason...........to get them off the internet. This design is unique and still in production by a knife maker in New Mexico. These individuals are probably the best people anyone can call friends. They are a mom and pop shop and making a great portion of their living off of their leatherwork products. There have been a few people who have copied their products and they have never said a word publicly about it. I as a owner of several of their products am coming forward to get these copycat models off the market. Paul is such a great and gentle guy......I bet if you call him and ask permission to copy or mimic his design he would be willing to give you that latitude and maybe even provide you some direction to change it so it can be called your own design. It is the only respectful thing to do is give credit where do. I will be waiting for payment information......thank you! Greetings from Central Texas! The Grain Side Up blog #TheGrainSideUp
Moderator immiketoo Posted May 25, 2014 Moderator Report Posted May 25, 2014 I agree with Sam. I just spoke to the owners of the company you clearly copied from and their opinion is that you should give credit where its due. You admit that you took the design from the internet, but you've clearly not considered the impact of copying one of the most unique designs out there (X2) and then posting it on a forum in a vary small community of leatherworkers. I also own several of their knives, and think they are some of the best people out there. While you have copied the shape, I doubt you have been able to copy the quality at the price you've offered them at. Yours are pretty, but thats because the overall design is pretty. You should call Paul and apologize for the blatant rip off. We all understand that imitation is a form of flattery, and that these knives look cool, but have a heart and don't undercut someone in the industry with their own design. Learnleather.com
Moderator Johanna Posted May 25, 2014 Moderator Report Posted May 25, 2014 If anyone is looking for the real deal leatherwranglers.com is where you will find the knives Paul and Rosa make. Be prepared to get your socks knocked off. You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. - Mark Twain
Moderator immiketoo Posted May 25, 2014 Moderator Report Posted May 25, 2014 AMEN, Jo! Learnleather.com
Members Macca Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 Ouch, thats a bit blatant ! One good thing though, Its got me looking at Paul's knifes now, got to pick up a couple of these Assume he ships to Europe ?
Members shtoink Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) I'd shot an email out to Paul about this right about the same time King's X put his post in. I might see making one of a similar design for personal use, but to put them out there for sale to others is a huge difference. Especially when you consider all the work and testing that went into the design of the knife. This is me personally, but I really question the motives of someone who's very first post is an item for sale. There's no history of the person's interaction with the community to be able to make any judgements on. There are a couple members in here who only use the expertise of the more knowledgeable people for the sole purpose of creating an eBay listing without ever giving anything back to the community. Edited May 25, 2014 by shtoink
Members camano ridge Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 It does not look like it was based on designs found on line. It looks to be a copy of an original design created by one person. Seeing a design on the internet or ina book and copying it then selling it is a form of intellectual theft. Your brother looks like he is probably a decent knife maker. So have him come up with a design more his own then come back to see us when you are not trying to make money off of someone elses creativity with out giving them credit for it. https://www.facebook.com/CamanoRidgeCustomLeather?fref=ts
Members LTC Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 If they wanted to protect their design, they should've patented it. That is the way it works in this country. I've made unique items that people have blatantly ripped off before and no one cares. I explained to everyone that I was the one that came up with a particular design for some tools and was told either get a patent or shut up. So.....all your goading of the OP probably won't do any good. People are going to copy other people's designs and sell them. It happens all the time on here and everywhere else and there's nothing anyone here can do to stop it.
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