Members splitrail Posted January 6, 2016 Author Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 By any chance is there a certain distance or number of threads between the missed stitches? It's not consistant, sometimes it's 4 in a row and other times it's 2? Quote
Members TheModifier Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) It sounds like something is sticking. Are there any wear marks on things like the bobbin? (Possibly bent?) Edited January 6, 2016 by TheModifier Quote
Members Dwight Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 I've never had that problem, . . . but after about 3 or 4 editions of it, . . . I'd probably have a little bad boy hissy fit. Then, . . . I'd take off the spool of thread, . . . take out the bobbin, . . . take out the needle, . . . I'd wipe down and clean all those parts I could get to, . . . doing a "tear apart, . . . clean, . . . oil, . . . grease" type PM on the machine. Next, . . . I would put in a new needle, . . . different bobbin, . . . and a different spool of thread. If that did not solve it, . . . off to the sewing machine fix it shop it would go. Through 55 or so years of working with mechanical "stuff", . . . I've learned most importantly, that most problems are common problems, . . . everyone has the same ones, . . . they are even somewhat predictable. BUT, . . . every now and then there is this other one, . . . and yours seems to be in that category, . . . and the process outlined above I've used on guns, sewing machines, cars, trucks, tractors, and even people to a certain degree (I'm a pastor also). May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members 25b Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 Next, . . . I would put in a new needle, . . . different bobbin, . . . and a different spool of thread. To expand on what Dwight said above, I would recommend only doing one of those things at a time...then test sew and see if the problem persists. That way, you'll know which thing was causing the problem. If you do all of them at the same time without testing between each step, you won't know where the problem was...you might not care where it was, but it would be good to know if it was one specific thing in case it happens again. Quote
Members jimi Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 Hi There, what machine are you using? i suppose you have tried with a bigger needle?? Quote
Members splitrail Posted January 6, 2016 Author Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 Hi, I stripped down and started over. New thread, bigger needle, (hoping that would punch a bigger hole to allow more freedom for the upper thread to grab the bobbin thread and make the return trip) ?? Same thing, the machine is stitching like a dream on a single layer, but refused to keep stitching when I add a second layer. I did give it a go with canvas and from one layer to 3 layers it sewed just fine. It is a Singer 291U1 Originally designed for shirt making, but it seems to have more than enough torque to sew the thick stuff. Quote
Members jimi Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 I am sorry i dont know much about the Singer 291U1 machines, i personally would go with the max needle size and try each time a thinner thread? i have a couple of singer 45ks, an 18-2, 17-10, pfaff 335 and when this has happened to me i just go up to a bigger needle and it sorts that out. maybe the machine wont sew that much of that type of leather?? jimi Quote
Members TinkerTailor Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Some fabric machines have only 5/16 of foot lift. How torquey the machine goes will not change the fact that 2-3 layers of leather is too high to be accomodated. Your machine is built for high speed sewing of lightweight fabrics, not leather. I think you have found the upper limit of thickness that machine is capable of. It may have the torque to push the needle through steel, but only if it is not too thick. Try to re-stitch a seam it skipped on while pressing the foot down as hard as you can with a screwdriver and see if it still skips. Edited January 6, 2016 by TinkerTailor Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members Tejas Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) It may be that the material fits, but is just at the point that the presser foot releases tension. Assuming that TinkerTailor has identified the problem, and your machine might be just on the edge of forming stitches when the tension discs are released, I'm wondering were you to double-wrap the thread around the tension discs, would that provide just enough thread tension to avoid skipping stitches. Double-wrapping the thread is a technique used by DIY boat canvas sewers sewing with home sewing machines. Edited January 6, 2016 by Tejas Quote
Members rosiart Posted January 6, 2016 Members Report Posted January 6, 2016 Assuming that TinkerTailor has identified the problem, and your machine might be just on the edge of forming stitches when the tension discs are released, I'm wondering were you to double-wrap the thread around the tension discs, would that provide just enough thread tension to avoid skipping stitches. Double-wrapping the thread is a technique used by DIY boat canvas sewers sewing with home sewing machines. Tejas, When you do that, do you do the double wrap right before you get to the problem area, since the tension seems ok for the first part with the single layer? Quote Rosemary RosiArt's Blog
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