mariemoo Report post Posted July 16, 2016 Hello people I recently acquired this off an elderly gentlman whos father was a cobbler..I think it is a sole stitcher But I have no idea...it has 'gritzner' and 'patent' printed on the side. It all moves smoothly and the bobbing has some thick thread still in it. It all seems intact just trying to do some research and maybe get it back to near its former glory. if anyone know absolutely anything that may help as I cant figure out how to even thread it yet haha xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mariemoo Report post Posted July 17, 2016 Can anyone help? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted July 24, 2016 Hi There, this looks like a carpet sewing machine?? the sole stitcher is very different to this: hope this helps, regards jimi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted July 24, 2016 I don't know much about this machine but have one like it that sews.I thought it might have been made to sew harness since it has such a high foot lift.I don't have any manuals for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted July 24, 2016 7 hours ago, CowboyBob said: I don't know much about this machine but have one like it that sews.I thought it might have been made to sew harness since it has such a high foot lift.I don't have any manuals for it. If that machine can sew along the edge of a sole, or a narrow edge of a shaped project, with heavy thread, I'll take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted July 25, 2016 Hi Wizcrafts, The pic of the Gritzner by jimi above sound more like the machine you're after. This is very similar to the Frobana outsole stitcher which when I was doing shoe repairing was my favorite. I think I still have 3 or 4 floating around here somewhere but they are the full on cast stand versions.. Parts are a bit hard to get here.The presser foot above tends to wear off on an angle and is the only main problem I ever had. Regards Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted July 25, 2016 I used to have a pull down lever sole stitcher that clamped onto the edge of a table and looked a lot like the one in Bob's picture. I let it go many years ago for shit money and wish I hadn't done so now. I know where there is a rotary handle Gritzner but the owner won't sell it. As for Frobana's, they are just too expensive anymore, especially their curved needles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted July 25, 2016 I must admit it's been years since I bought needles. By to expensive do you mean parts or the machines. I would have thought the machines would have been pretty cheap to pick up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted July 25, 2016 10 hours ago, RockyAussie said: I must admit it's been years since I bought needles. By to expensive do you mean parts or the machines. I would have thought the machines would have been pretty cheap to pick up. Frobana outsole machines come up for sale now and then, mostly in Germany and Holland. The last one I saw was sold by Seike.de for 750 Euros.Power Shoe - in Holland - also sells Frobana, when they have them in stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted July 25, 2016 Presumably the machine here ( about 30 minutes from me ) is the same sort of thing? The name may be "Black" or that may be just the colour ? They say it works, they say it is a chain stitch ( chainette ) machine..cordonnier ( shoemakers ) machine looks huge..and heavy..buyer collects..they are asking €600.oo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted July 26, 2016 That machine's description and the photo remind me of a McKay chainstitch sole stitcher. You sew with the bottom up on a McKay, which forms a chainstitch on the inside of the shoe. That stitching would then be hidden by a glued on insole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Brosowski Report post Posted August 7, 2016 The original machine in this thread reminds me more of a carpet sewing machine than anything else but the fact that it obviously clamps to a bench ruins that theory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicw Report post Posted September 17, 2016 the machine that mikesc has posted a picture of is similar to two advertised in the UK earlier this year as "Blake Insole Stitchers" One appeared to be manually operated the other also had a motor and belt drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngieNZ Report post Posted May 30, 2017 I have just purchased a machine like in original post at top . Any one have a close up of how to thread On 25/07/2016 at 7:12 AM, Wizcrafts said: If that machine can sew along the edge of a sole, or a narrow edge of a shaped project, with heavy thread, I'll take it. Can you photograph threading Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted May 30, 2017 8 hours ago, AngieNZ said: I have just purchased a machine like in original post at top . Any one have a close up of how to thread Can you photograph threading I don't own such a machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 30, 2017 http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/121634935128 Here are some close up´s of the same machine i think? they call it a leather sewing machine here, but i still reckon it is for sewing carpets?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) They want nearly $5000.00 ( or slightly over $5,000.00 inc shipping ) for it ! My mother used to talk of a machine that she had when she was small, "it was for catching young ducks"..this could be such a one:) Edited May 30, 2017 by mikesc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) They relisted it for way less later snot sure if it ever sold http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/-/121833070621 EDIT: and here it is again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRITZNER-PATENT-LEATHER-SEWING-MACHINE-VERY-RARE-/122352734794 Edited May 31, 2017 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 1, 2017 Just found this auction - Singer carpet Stitcher 35-1 - looks "quite" close to the Gritzner I´d say. http://www.ebay.de/itm/322537972364?ul_noapp=true Jimi, thats close to you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted June 1, 2017 800kms+800kms to buy a €325 carpet stitcher!! you been eating that psychotropic toast again?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) at least closer than the 45K in Germany Who know´s maybe you start a carpet business soon. I just wanted to give a hint for a similar machine (like the Gritzner) Edited June 1, 2017 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verc Report post Posted September 17, 2017 hello I'm a collector of sewing machines I have the same sewing machine Gritzner, I lost a while but I managed to make it work perfectly, I also have the original French language manual (missing 2 pages) if you are still interested I can photograph it and send.This machine works horizontally to sew the outer edge of the shoe the same function as the Frobana or Junker.Best regrds,Vittorio On 24/7/2016 at 9:12 PM, Wizcrafts said: If that machine can sew along the edge of a sole, or a narrow edge of a shaped project, with heavy thread, I'll take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted September 17, 2017 If you can photograph it and upload it, I can translate it to English and re-upload. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mariemoo Report post Posted December 13, 2017 His very I got 4 pages you sent one with the bobbin shuttle but can't figure out the position to place the bobbin shuttle into its holder so it works with the needle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) I put the pages onto another HD ( not on this machine )..and forgot all about it, ( and of my "tax year" here,- business tax year, personal tax years are approximately May to May - and have been very busy too, I mostly look in and maybe post late at night ) so the translation is going to be late, but I'll get on it. The missing pages may well be the ones that cover where the bobbin goes ( I read through the pages very quickly and noticed that the missing pages were a "bit critical" to be able to thread it, but, we'll see ) I'll try and get it all ( the pages that Verc sent to me ) translated and assembled into a PDF with the original photos, up before Xmas hits us.. Edited December 13, 2017 by mikesc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
