Shipping machines

[TomG]

What is the best way and approx cost to ship, say, a Consew 206 and table?  I know it depends on distance and weight, but just looking for a ballpark

 

Thanks

[Constabulary]

2 ways - either disassemble everything and send the bits in several packages (I did that once - lots of packing and wrapping) - or - ship it assembled tied onto a palett. Maybe you can take off the head and pack it separately in a sturdy cardboard box padded with 1.5" styrofoam plates on all sides top and bottom and tie it onto the palett too. Then you probably can put the table flat onto the palette. That will safe you some hight - maybe hight matters in terms of shipping costs. I´m on the other side oft he pond so I cannot tell you how much shipping would be - maybe check with U-ship.

Edited August 18, 2016 by Constabulary

[mikesc]

Uwe posted this a while back..not the same machine, but the principle is the same..should give you some ideas ..
http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/68866-show-tell-building-a-shipping-crate-for-an-adler-69/

The table and frame you can spilt down and ship separately..

price to ship ? ..how long is a piece of string ? ..depends from where to where and with which shipping company..

Edited August 18, 2016 by mikesc

[brmax]

I think its a big question with whos doing the work to prepare these items. Its not that easy when it works great imho. And whos taking it to a load dock or will/can they possibly pickup at your industrial spec dock.

Something I would look into is do you want shipping insurance and who really takes that cost, but probably the most important is weather the shipment will have to be on a pallet.

This we know generally requires an extra lift charge from the height of the truck body to the ground only, and generally needed in residential areas if a big delivery truck even has access close by.

I think just shipping the head of a standard hd walker machine will be 200. minimum with insurance 2000k worth.

Some cannot or do not have the capacity to prepare some of these heavy machines even taken apart from the table, and some I think I really question how secure the package is. Then there are persons  around here I consider experts in this hd packaging like the 3/4 plywood encasement type its secure and adds to a weight, so its a balancing act for your choices.

Floyd

[Hockeymender]

The best method is the remove the head from the table and crate it. Attach the table to a pallet and then band the crate with the head under the table to the pallet. Some then choose to use a shrink wrap type material around the whole lot but I think that's optional. As far as shippers, use a freight company. They will get it where it's going with much less chance of damage. The absolute last choice for shipping a sewing machine would be UPS. I've seen first hand what they can do industrial sewing machines. Just my two cents. 

[Colt W Knight]

I wouldn't ship with the head attached. I drove from Arizona to WV  with my machine ( consew 206) intact, and the vibrations broke all the welds on the table.

[gottaknow]

We ship machines between factories all the time. We bolt the table to a full size pallet with the head still in the table. We then strap the head to the table with multiple straps and then strap the table to the pallet. We'll shrink wrap the entire thing which does an amazing job at dampening all the vibration. Or course all our factories have fork lifts, but a lift will work for pick up and delivery. Most drivers carry pallet jacks. For pricing we use freightquote.com and the only trucking line we avoid is YRC.

Regards, Eric

[Seaboard]

Check the freight carriers websites, most have cost estimators on them. Ship complete and have the customer do a pick up at the terminal and they will load it for them.

[graywolf]

On a pallet you ought to be able to ship it coast to coast (USA) for about $250, but you will have to shop around to get that price. There are websites where you can get bids on the shipping. Sometimes, rather than run empty, someone will bid pretty much for the cost of fuel.

Palletizing can cost you nothing to a couple of hundred bucks. Depending, of course if, you do it yourself on a used wood pallet (if you are in a big city you an often get one for free), or have someone come in and do it on a new pallet. If it is going to be hauled in a pickup truck or something like that, I would remove the head, wrap the head thoroughly, turn the table upside down put the head next to the motor and strap it down real well. Commercial freight, you can do it like Eric described.

I recent checked on renting a forklift to avoid a lift gate fee, Not worth it unless you are shipping or receiving a whole bunch of stuff ($70 v $400 for a 1/2 day).

If you are buying new, ask if they will setup the head on one of their tables, and ship everything knocked down. Funny thing about shipping something like a sewing machine is that do to the vibration and stuff it is going to need to be tweaked anyway when you get it. If you can not do that you need to buy locally where they will bring it out and set it up on your floor. Which is to say if you can not put a table together and mount the motor and head (knocked down), you probably should not have one shipped to you in the first place. One of the reasons many of the guys here suggest that you have the machine checked by a local tech when you get it.

Edited August 19, 2016 by graywolf

[brmax]

I will say there has been machines advertised here in the last 5 years that would be in my shop if the shipping was not on my part to figure and package the many states away. With heart felt and good intentions It is just not feasible for a buyer to orchestrate this in an area unknown "dollar wise" imo.

I have some gravel out front that would be tough rolling anything on / in so unless the truck lift gate can get to my concrete its a no go and I have to get the crawler or a tractor loader and thats a pain. So the deal is small dolly packages best, or a pallet I can pickup at a terminal or better yet drag from the lift gate here to the garage concrete. Sometimes the concrete is just not available for close delivery. For me to travel to a terminal is not that big of a deal but if its on a pallet well its still on a pallet in the truck when I get home.

So summing all this up I will take lift gate delivery of whatever if its big, this is an extra charge I know.

My last head was shipped in factory box all factory 4" foamed surround, then the fella cover it in 1/2 plywood and rope only a rigger could appreciate. UPS did good, I think it could have fell off the truck 20 times and been perfectly fine.

Floyd

 

[TomG]

Thanks to all.  Guess I'll just keep my listing as local

  Too much expense for this old singer 155 

Tom 

[graywolf]

 

Thanks to all.  Guess I'll just keep my listing as local

  Too much expense for this old singer 155 

Tom 

See if you can get it palletized, If you can offer to palletize it for customer's pick up. That gives you a wider customer base, the problem with having it picked up is that it is very hard to arrange for palletizing it from a distance. It is not that difficult for the buyer to arrange shipping from anywhere in the US if it is on a pallet.

[brmax]

It may surprise ya to know how many people will travel for a day to pick up a machine, I have 3 times so local can be determined several ways to help with your sale. Several things have been on the site here and I have missed or been late to the find, and here in my State so keep this place in mind. Also craigs is a great place to post also a State away is not a big deal for myself or hasn't been.

good luck in your sales or buys

Floyd

[TomG]

Thanks for the input, Floyd.  I've had a few inquiries locally but they were from people who wanted it for next to nothing.

I don't really mind shipping, but was not up to speed on ways and costs.  I have a much better handle on it now.

Thanks to all

Tom

[Wizcrafts]

 

Thanks for the input, Floyd.  I've had a few inquiries locally but they were from people who wanted it for next to nothing.

Tom

Decide what your bottom price is and mark your local ads with FIRM on the price. That will eliminate some of the tire kickers. Of course it won't stop the Nigerian overpayment with kited check scammers!

[TomG]

 

Decide what your bottom price is and mark your local ads with FIRM on the price. That will eliminate some of the tire kickers. Of course it won't stop the Nigerian overpayment with kited check scammers!

Hi Wiz,

Thanks,,, Yep.  Already did the decision on a bottom price.  I always do that anyway .  Don't think I put FIRM on it though.... I just got in from vacation, so will check that tomorrow .

I haven't had to battle the Nigerians lately, but I've had a few "official" Microsoft support folks form Manila call to tell me my PC was in serious trouble and the could fix it.  I couple of them even held on while I "had the FBI start a phone trace on the call".  Talk about being faithful to a script.  Hmm ... I wonder how long they held on after I hung up?

Thanks

Tom