Members LeatherLegion Posted January 6, 2017 Members Report Posted January 6, 2017 If you are looking for diamond chisels take a look at this guys...under $200 shipped http://www.crimsonhides.com/craft-tools.html Here is a review of those particular irons too Quote
electrathon Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/4/2017 at 7:01 PM, Halitech said: since the pricking irons are not used to actually make holes, why not use the over stitch wheels? heck of a lot cheaper Quality of sewing. If you just want your pieces to stay together they are great. If you want precisely placed stitches an iron will do that. The length of the iron makes sure all of the stitches are exactly in line with the others. Very straight, concise, quality. Quote
Members Halitech Posted January 6, 2017 Members Report Posted January 6, 2017 the one I have, if there is a difference in the spacing, it's not enough that you can tell by eye. Having said that, I prefer my chisels over the wheel unless I can't use the chisels Quote Every day you learn something is a good day. If you don't learn something every day, was it worth waking up for?
Members billybopp Posted January 6, 2017 Members Report Posted January 6, 2017 One big advantage of a pricking iron over an overstitch wheel is that the pricking iron helps guide the angle of your awl so that you get a nearly perfect angled hole every time - especially if your awl has a broader tip rather than extremely pointy. (Think a broadsword tip as opposed to a rapier tip in sword terms). There is no guidance using an overstitch wheel, so your hand awl work has to be more precise and disciplined. A stitching chisel can come close to a pricking iron in that awl guidance, if you don't use it to punch all the way through.. And if you go all the way through with them, they work great as long as they don't make huge gaping holes as some do. Bill Quote
Members Tugadude Posted January 10, 2017 Members Report Posted January 10, 2017 Don't know if anyone recommended these yet... Quote
Members trailrunner Posted January 11, 2017 Members Report Posted January 11, 2017 I second the recommendation to watch Nigel Armitage's youtube video where he reviews a bunch of different pricking irons. I have the diamond hole punches from leathercrafttools, and I couldn't be happier with them. They produce a really nice stitch and don't produce large holes. I only have the 6 prong and 2 prong for each spi. I use 6 prong for straight lines, and 2 prong for curves. I highly recommend them. Leathercrafttools has two different types. The ones I use are the diamond punches, not the "European punch." On top of that, they're only like $10 for 6 prong and $6 for 2 prong, plus shipping. Don't let the price fool you. They produce beautiful stitches and are made of quality steel. I've used one of the 6 prong ones for a couple years now, and it still produces clean effortless holes. As others have said, you can also use these just to make indentations, and follow up with your awl if you want, which I sometimes do on very thick seams. Quote
Members YinTx Posted January 18, 2017 Members Report Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/10/2017 at 9:06 AM, Tugadude said: Don't know if anyone recommended these yet... Tugadude, I used the CS Osborne chisel to mark the stitches for this: It makes for a very chunky stitch, but works great if you are using heavy thread like the 132 size linen rope I did the holster in. All in all, they are very well made, very stout, and work well for heavy items (ie thick leather). However, if you are using thin thread (332 and smaller) on small jobs with thin leather, probably not the best option, as they leave really big marks on the leather. They aren't intended to punch through the leather, either. They do not come in 2 prong versions. They work great for their intended purpose. Just my experience, YMMV. YinTx Quote YinTx https://www.instagram.com/lanasia_2017/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK6HvLWuZTzjt3MbR0Yhcj_WIQIvchezo
MADMAX22 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 10:16 AM, billybopp said: One big advantage of a pricking iron over an overstitch wheel is that the pricking iron helps guide the angle of your awl so that you get a nearly perfect angled hole every time - especially if your awl has a broader tip rather than extremely pointy. (Think a broadsword tip as opposed to a rapier tip in sword terms). There is no guidance using an overstitch wheel, so your hand awl work has to be more precise and disciplined. A stitching chisel can come close to a pricking iron in that awl guidance, if you don't use it to punch all the way through.. And if you go all the way through with them, they work great as long as they don't make huge gaping holes as some do. Bill The overstitch wheels are used after your done stitching, pricking wheels are different and give a small start in the leather for your awl. Big difference if you havent tried them. Quote
Members billybopp Posted January 18, 2017 Members Report Posted January 18, 2017 I haven't tried pricking wheels, only overstitch wheels to mark spacing. Mostly because I have only found pricking wheels in pretty high SPI. Whether pricking wheel or overtitch they don't give you any guidance on angle - which is where I seem to need the most help. What I'd really like to try is the VB type pricking wheel which leaves a pricking iron like mark, but they're pretty darn expensive. Bill Quote
MADMAX22 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Angle is determined by how you hold the awl and stitching the same very time. I have marks or use a reference point on mine I will rest above my thumb. Some people will grind down one side of the awl haft so when you hold it you hold it the same way. Atleast thats how I do it. Quote
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