Clicker, Have you heard of it?

[catskin]

Well most of my questions were answered today. Though not the answers I wish they had been.  I had a electrician friend take a look at this press, and it is 220 single phase.  Neither of them could seem to understand why the plate on the outside did not show that it was 3 phase. So now I have to decide what my next move is to be. I am told phase converters are about $1800.00 which is more than I am prepared to put into it.  Here is what I am considering try to sell as is, see if there is a way of changing the motor to 220 single phase without having to rewire the whole system. Or take my lose and learn from it. Maybe the dies that came with it can be sold to recover some of what I put into it.

[Northmount]

3 hours ago, catskin said:

Well most of my questions were answered today. Though not the answers I wish they had been.  I had a electrician friend take a look at this press, and it is 220 single phase.  Neither of them could seem to understand why the plate on the outside did not show that it was 3 phase. So now I have to decide what my next move is to be. I am told phase converters are about $1800.00 which is more than I am prepared to put into it.  Here is what I am considering try to sell as is, see if there is a way of changing the motor to 220 single phase without having to rewire the whole system. Or take my lose and learn from it. Maybe the dies that came with it can be sold to recover some of what I put into it.

You state it is 220 single phase, then go on about it being 3 phase, which is it really?  And if it is 3 phase, replace the motor and do some rewiring of the control circuits.  Can still use the 3 phase contactor on single phase 220.

Tom

[catskin]

50 minutes ago, northmount said:

You state it is 220 single phase, then go on about it being 3 phase, which is it really?  And if it is 3 phase, replace the motor and do some rewiring of the control circuits.  Can still use the 3 phase contactor on single phase 220.

Tom

SORRY my mistake I was thinking one thing and typed another.! It is 220  3 phase.  I will have to have an electrician check out more of the wiring to see if it will need to be changed.  The guy here today did not have time to check all the wiring as to what voltage it uses going to other parts. from the transformer that is shown in the book.

[leathersmyth]

My experience,

 I picked up a clicker that was wired for 550 volt for the motor. I was in a place that had three phase 220. I picked up a inverter from out vancouver way, had it wired up to kick the voltage up to the needed 550. worked like a dream. Moved it to single phase 220 place and no longer could use that set up. I pulled the motor out of clicker, picked up a 220 single phase motor and installed into clicker. On mine, the 550 volt was just for the motor. inside there was a Transformer that actually took the power down to 110 volt. The only thing that was 550 was the motor, the rest of the controls, switches,etc were 110. So it runs perfect now on 220 single phase. 

 So yours Might be something similar to that. and you might get away with just swapping out the motor.....

 

[Sonydaze]

$1800 sounds like a lot for a phase converter, I would do some shopping.  Another alternative to changing the motor is to power it with a inverter, their cost is fairly reasonable.

Hitachi inverters

[catskin]

Thank you both for your advise.  I will have to do some more research it sounds like an inverter might be the right thing for me.   I have talked to 2 electricians and it neither offered any solution but a rotary phase converter at about $1800.00.  I guess I might have to talk to one who does more work with 3 phase and high voltage.  The book with the wiring diagram was supposed to be included in the deal but now she keeps telling( ITS HERE) but she can't find it. With the book it would be a lot easier to know how I can set it up.  I have found what are called STATIC  phase converters on the internet for as little as $69.00  that are for motors 3-5 hp. ( mine is 2 hp. ) but need to know for sure they are the right thing for this job.

Edited March 5, 2017 by catskin
Changed some to clarify.

[shoepatcher]

Catskin,

Been a while.  You can get a 5 horse rotary phase converter from Grizzly Tools for  995.00 plus shipping.   1-8005234777.   That should be more that plenty for your machine. Want to see pics when it is finished.

glenn

[shoepatcher]

Catskin,

I just saw the manual you got on an earlier post.  That is a Fipi side arm clicker.  Contact Manufactures supplies in Missouri.  They can help you.

glenn

[catskin]

3 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Catskin,

I just saw the manual you got on an earlier post.  That is a Fipi side arm clicker.  Contact Manufactures supplies in Missouri.  They can help you.

glenn

Thank you for your info. I just  ( 15 minutes ago ) found that I can get rotary phase converters near here. I will go to them and see what they can supply. The good part is to deal face to face.  The price we got on the phone is $ 515.00 for 3 hp. which sounds good.  This is not a hurry up deal I am working at it as I have time.

[CowboyBob]

Rea Bogle's Grandson was going to take over.But changed his mind & I got a letter from his wife a few months ago asking if I was interested in buying the business.