utah leather Report post Posted March 10, 2017 does anyone know where I can find copper rivets and burrs for my belts, I'm looking for #6 x 1/2 inch long #6 has a top of 3/8 in diameter ( or even a little smaller would be ok. Hope someone out there can tell me of a good source. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunter9 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 you know how big #6 are the head alone is 5/8-3/4 inch and the shaft close to 1/4 inch . Montana leather billings Montana carry # 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utah leather Report post Posted March 10, 2017 ok I'm looking for small copper rivets with a head that is 3/8 diameter or less with a shaft that is 1/8 inch and a length that is 1/2 long, does Montana Leather carry these ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattsbagger Report post Posted March 10, 2017 58 minutes ago, utah leather said: ok I'm looking for small copper rivets with a head that is 3/8 diameter or less with a shaft that is 1/8 inch and a length that is 1/2 long, does Montana Leather carry these ? Length dosent matter really. You just cut it off anyways. So look for your diameter and get the longest ones. You can always make shorter but adding length is impossible. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Sioux Saddlery Report post Posted March 10, 2017 I don't know about Montana Leather, but Weaver has as small as a #14 copper rivet with burrs. They are pretty dang small, in fact I only rarely ever use them. They also have a #12, which I use occasionally. I can get measurements later if you want, or maybe someone else knows what the specs are on those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Copper rivets, wire, etc. sizes are defined as AWG, American Wire Gauge. There is more info than you ever want to know here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge. Scroll down and you will find a table cross referencing # and diameters. I tend to use #9 for heavy stuff, #12, and rarely #14. You can look up availability at your local Tandy Leather I you are so inclined. Nice to be able to pick it up today instead of waiting several days for shipment. Also make sure you know how to install the rivets. My first attempt was a disaster! So practice on a couple pieces of scrap first. Also do a search here and you will find lots of suggestions. The minimum tools are a punch, an angle cutters (side cutters or nippers), an anvil or other hard solid surface, and a ball peen hammer. Not recommended to use your granite or marble slab as an anvil. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Sioux Saddlery Report post Posted March 10, 2017 That's interesting, Tom. I always wondered if #9 wire was the same as #9 rivets, but it seems like #14 rivets are a little heavier than #14 fence wire. Not that I've ever put the two side by side for comparison or measured with a dial caliper. Always learning something here! Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utah leather Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks Tom, the rivets that my Tandy store has are to big for my knife/ marker, pencil holder that I wear on my belt for my full time job. ( I install granite counter tops ) so this is why I have to find another source ( what a pain ) Thanks for the advice on the tools, I actually went to a metal supply store and bought an I- beam about 2 feet long to use as my anvil because I couldn't find a used one at a good price and I have the rest of the tools. I have to have some of my tools for my belts hand made from a guy in Salt Lake City, utah because all these leather working tools are chinese crap and fall apart so easy. Thanks again, John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunter9 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) #12 length always matters they are sold by the pound yes Montana leather carries them you need #12 3/4 inch with washers you want copper not nickel plated McPherson out of seattle same company Edited March 10, 2017 by thunter9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunter9 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 McPherson out of seattle same company Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thunter9 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Quote #14 look to be about the size that levi used in their pockets. #12 sounds like the one your looking for , #10 are a little heaver but the heads closer to a # 12 , #9 good all around size #8 and #7 we used to rivet stirrup braces on shoes. these are big dogs buy out west Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
