Members jimi Posted November 18, 2017 Members Report Posted November 18, 2017 9.5 !! that is very long? are you sure you did not put some parts on back to front? jjjj so with the Pfennig inside you will maybe get 15mm long. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted November 18, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 18, 2017 Indeed! But I had to make some adjustments on the cam that controls the thread lever and the hook that garbs the thread - I ended with 8.5mm when practical sewing and so far no skipping stitches. I think I have to do fine tuning but it can´t be much. I will test some thicker materials too - this is 2.5mm synthetic material. I´m really impressed! I never expected this stitch length from a decades old patcher machine! I mean if you compare this with old Singer 29K´s or Adler 30 of the same age ... thats really impressive!!! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
mikesc Posted November 18, 2017 Report Posted November 18, 2017 So..obviously you are going to keep this one ..size matters :) Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
alexitbe Posted November 18, 2017 Report Posted November 18, 2017 It is sewing wonderfully... Very nice for such a machine... I am still in wonder at all the shiny bits... I have bought citrone saure and going to try and derust some stuff... I wan to get as good as your result... I am also looking at buying a car batterie charger to attempt some electrolysis... I am looking for the least physically demanding derusting method... Thanks for keeping us entertained... Quote
Members R8R Posted November 19, 2017 Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 6 hours ago, alexitbe said: I am looking for the least physically demanding derusting method... Battery charger, some clamps, wire and old wrenches. Or white vinegar and a little elbow grease. Here is WAY more than you wanted to know: Quote
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted November 19, 2017 Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 That stitching (and the machine) is looking good. Another cracking job well done. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Constabulary Posted November 19, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 Mike - unfortunately I most likely will not keep it - though the stitch length and the whole machine is really tempting to keep but I do not have enough space for it and I do not have enough work for another patcher. I cannot justify it to myself (though it sucks a bit). Yet no Video but I figured I can sew up to 9-10mm thick material with it. I´m no video artists so I will try to put something together that is worth watching - hopefully. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 19, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) uploading right now - hope it will work - as I said I´m no video artist (obviously) Edited November 19, 2017 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 19, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Edited November 19, 2017 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 19, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Edited November 19, 2017 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members GPaudler Posted November 20, 2017 Members Report Posted November 20, 2017 Beautiful job Constabulary! I think you restored the machine to just the right degree. I especially like the bobbin boat and winder, not to mention that crazy hook mechanism. If that's the one that you're letting-go, you must have some very special machines. If I was a few thousand kilometers closer, I would definitely buy it. Gary Quote
Members dikman Posted November 20, 2017 Members Report Posted November 20, 2017 Yep, I agree, very nice job indeed! I can't believe how you managed to get all the bright metal parts so clean! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Evo160K Posted November 21, 2017 Report Posted November 21, 2017 Constabulary, What a beautiful job of bringing that fine old machine back to life.......fascinating and informative. My hats off to you. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted November 21, 2017 Author Members Report Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Thanks a lot Here is a list of subclasses for the Dürkopp 17 and 18 Class (German language - sorry). I think this list is from the early 1930´s Edited November 21, 2017 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Gunnarsson Posted December 9, 2017 Members Report Posted December 9, 2017 That's an impressive piece of german engineering, and equally impressive restoration! I Always thought I should stay clear of the Dürkopp patchers due to not having parts available, but they just might be worth the hassle anyway. Quote
Members DominickTuroski Posted December 11, 2017 Members Report Posted December 11, 2017 Patcher machines are always so neat looking, and can really get the job done. Amazing to see what youve done to clean it up and get it back in working order. Keep it up! Quote
Members Kamp Posted January 31, 2018 Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 Where did you find a manual? I'm trying to find one for my 17 model, one that is hopefully written in English. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 31, 2018 Author Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 I have no english manual - I once bought a German photo copy on Ebay put figured some pages are missing and some are double - forgot to complain so my fault I have no complete manual. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Mark842 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Posted January 31, 2018 You mention you might decide to not keep this machine. If you decide to sell let me know. Thanks! Mark Quote
Members Kamp Posted January 31, 2018 Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, Constabulary said: I have no english manual - I once bought a German photo copy on Ebay put figured some pages are missing and some are double - forgot to complain so my fault I have no complete manual. Watching your video , I believe I am missing the final tensioner/guide above the needle shaft. Do you know where I could get one? I would post a picture but I don' know how, always say file too large. My machine has the round bobbin not the shuttle system like yours. The model # is missing. The small plate above the foot reads 39635 which I assume is the serial#. I really appreciate all the info I've been able to glean from you. There is very little info I can find on the web. Thanks Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 31, 2018 Author Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 If you have a round bobbin then yours is a Dürkopp 17 with oscillating shuttle hook. Only the Dürkopp 18 has this fixed boat type shuttle. Check with LW Member SHOEPATCHER - He probably has a few parts he could part with. Reg. resizing pictures - if you have a Microsoft Windows system try this one: https://www.digitalred.com/support/windows/image-resizing/ I´m using it for years and cannot live without it - very easy to use. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jimi Posted January 31, 2018 Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 Great job on that one Folker keep that old iron going... haha. and that is a very neat looking type of patcher! they look way better than the modern ones?. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted January 31, 2018 Moderator Report Posted January 31, 2018 I often use the FastStone Photo Resizer, found here. It is fairly simple to understand and can compress, reduce, crop, enhance and sharpen images to fixed or variable dimensions. I like that it has the option to create a new image name containing the changes, leaving the original untouched. Best of all, it is free for most home/private users. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Kamp Posted January 31, 2018 Members Report Posted January 31, 2018 38 minutes ago, Constabulary said: If you have a round bobbin then yours is a Dürkopp 17 with oscillating shuttle hook. Only the Dürkopp 18 has this fixed boat type shuttle. Check with LW Member SHOEPATCHER - He probably has a few parts he could part with. Reg. resizing pictures - if you have a Microsoft Windows system try this one: https://www.digitalred.com/support/windows/image-resizing/ I´m using it for years and cannot live without it - very easy to use. Thank you, I use my phone or tablet, I'll have to see if that will work. Thanks again for all your help! Quote
Members Black Dogg Posted February 2, 2018 Members Report Posted February 2, 2018 Very impressive job, Constabulary! Da sag ich nur: "Hut ab!" I bet you wish you would have kept that threadstand you sold to me a couple of years ago , it would fit perfect with that machine. If you need the complete manual for it (or a class 17), try www.altenaehmaschine.de . Mr. Bethke has scans of the original manuals there. they helped me finally figure out how to thread mine. By the way, what's the serial number of your machine? Mine is 4910 and I think fairly early, because of how fancy the stand and paint are. The front crank on yours was an option that had to be special ordered when you placed the order with the factory and was more money. It was meant to make starting easier (instead of reaching around the side one could just use the front crank). As far as I know, every machine has the round cut-out cast into the body. And yes, I heard the same about the factory being destroyed in an air raid at the end of WW 2. A crying shame, if you ask me; those machines are awesome!! Again, very nice job on the restoration!! Black Dogg Quote Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! Patrick Henry, March 23rd 1775
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