Deryk Report post Posted December 19, 2017 Hello...I saw these on ebay and Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Sewing-Machine-110v-480w/dp/B013FU9WSM/ref=pd_sbs_201_9?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B013FU9WSM&pd_rd_r=2W6WB4SRR7PVFC5M0G30&pd_rd_w=HkuGB&pd_rd_wg=y0BkB&psc=1&refRID=2W6WB4SRR7PVFC5M0G30 Was wondering about it. I am a Hobbyist, probably the heaviest weight (now) would be oiled 6-8oz hides (I like making bags/backpacks etc. I have a sailrite lsz-1 which is fine for real light leather. I have seen lots of gorgeaus machines 2k and above but for my use it isn't worth the small space I have for it... more portablilty even if it needs to be bolted to my workbench, can always put it away when I am not using it. I really like the look of the tippman boss for that reason. If I was doing leather work more professionally then a higher end machine would be on the list... but that isn't the case right now. Any other machine suggestions would be appreciated. thanks deryk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted December 19, 2017 G'day Deryk, the ad contradicts itself, advertised as 110v but then it says it doesn't come with the motor! Anyhow, it's what is referred to as a patcher, very good for boot/shoe repair and sewing patches on jackets (Wiz always says this) but not really intended for the type of work you're doing. By the time you buy a suitable table and motor it will end up not quite so cheap (or portable). I doubt if it would be a lot of use for what you're doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted December 20, 2017 I thought I would share the actual product description, supplied by the seller, of this drop shipped from China patcher. Quote It is suitable for sewing and repairing the heavy materials asleather, rubber, canvas etc. such as shoes, riding boot, luggage, and anycylindraceous articles. At the same time, it can make better effect when sewingthe tubal articles as canvas etc. Item Included:188073 Read the way that product description was cobbled together and the horrible spelling and grammatical errors. The Amazon seller who is representing this machine normally deals with silk screen printing equipment and materials, all of which are shipped from China. I could be wrong, but I suspect that the importer of silk screening equipment and materials may not be an expert in setting up or repairing industrial sewing machines, especially one as specialized as a patch machine. If this speculation were to prove true, you would be on your own to fix any flaws in the machine. If you wanted to contact the manufacturer for servicing or advice, you would need to speak Chinese, or hire a translator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheltathaLore Report post Posted December 20, 2017 "Cylindraceous" is my new favorite adjective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8R Report post Posted December 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said: I thought I would share the actual product description, supplied by the seller, of this drop shipped from China patcher. Read the way that product description was cobbled together and the horrible spelling and grammatical errors. The Amazon seller who is representing this machine normally deals with silk screen printing equipment and materials, all of which are shipped from China. I could be wrong, but I suspect that the importer of silk screening equipment and materials may not be an expert in setting up or repairing industrial sewing machines, especially one as specialized as a patch machine. If this speculation were to prove true, you would be on your own to fix any flaws in the machine. If you wanted to contact the manufacturer for servicing or advice, you would need to speak Chinese, or hire a translator. Hi - I was a professional screen printer for years. These kind of vendors have been around for decades and they all sell complete garbage equipment. I would not even recommend their screen printing offerings to hobbyists. This same company pushes stuff on Craig's List. It's all overpriced for what it is: garbage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockoboy Report post Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, SheltathaLore said: "Cylindraceous" is my new favorite adjective. Avery body wat speeks good engelish knoes its spelt 'cylindracaneous'! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted December 20, 2017 The dingo ate your "tubal articles!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted December 20, 2017 They almost got the word right - it's spelt cylindraceus. Unfortunately, for them, it has nothing to do with cylinders, it variously refers to a species of cactus, salamander or parasite among others. My contribution of useless trivia for the day....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted December 20, 2017 @Deryk We are just trying to save you some possible misery that could arise from buying what could well be an unsupported brand of industrial sewing machine. These concerns might be real, or totally unwarranted. It all depends on how well the machine was built, then if it was set up adjusted and sewn off before it was boxed up and shipped across the Ocean on a slow boat from China. This is something you will have to ask the importer/seller. Also, ask if they offer a warranty or technical support for that machine and where it would have to be sent for repairs. In many cases, unless otherwise stated in writing or on an official website, people importing sewing machines from China are expected to do their own servicing, at their own expense, without any help from the manufacturer. Major well known brands have representatives and dealer networks in various parts of the world. If something needs to be fixed, or a customer needs advice, these reps and dealers are the ones who should supply it. When I looked over the Amazon listing for the machine in question, there was no name tag or brand on the machine. It is a generic build, from who knows where. As was already mentioned, the listing is just for the head. There is nothing else supplied with the machine. You will need to build a table, or bolt it onto one you have. Motorizing it will cost a several hundred dollars for an industrial pedestal stand with a motor and speed reducer. You will likely need to purchase your own bobbins, needles, thread and thread stand. Last, I don't see a bobbin winder attachment, just the mounting block for one. This will run you some more bucks you weren't looking to spend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plinkercases Report post Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, dikman said: They almost got the word right - it's spelt cylindraceus. Unfortunately, for them, it has nothing to do with cylinders, it variously refers to a species of cactus, salamander or parasite among others. My contribution of useless trivia for the day....... And Google translates cylindraceus to Chinese as...cylindraceus... so it meant something to them! And in English yes it refers to a family of cactus that all seem to have the term "barrel' in the name...so you can see what they were heading for perhaps. hey as long as it "makes a better effect" it cant be all bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deryk Report post Posted December 20, 2017 Thanks Wiz, I am resigning myself to the fact I guess I am gonna have to spend some money. I am thinking about the Cowboy CB3200 or maybe the Outlaw... I guess I will start a new post about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted December 21, 2017 cylindraceus is a perfectly cromulent word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted December 21, 2017 Dang! Another word I had to look up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake907 Report post Posted December 21, 2017 5 hours ago, mikesc said: cylindraceus is a perfectly cromulent word. cromulent? I'm gonna have ta cogitate on that one... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Brosowski Report post Posted December 25, 2017 I would not touch this machine with a barge pole. People sometimes bring me 29's that they have imported from China and I tell them to piss off as there is not much chance that I can make them sew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
