meswaine Report post Posted December 21, 2017 I am looking for any help with my search for needles and a manual for a Singer 5-9, The photo does not do the scale justice, It weights at least 500lbs. It is 4 feet wide. It is much larger than the class 7 but has a similar bobbin, but i don't own a class 7 so I am not sure how close the bobbin holder is. I guess I am looking for someone who has a class 5 machine or any direction to point me. Which industrial sewing store might know about this machine? Thank you for letting me post my question here. i found this old book in the Smithsonian on-line archive but this doesn't help me enough to find an equivalent needle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted December 21, 2017 Well that's a beautiful monster. ISMACS describes it as an overseaming/sigzag machine. I can't imagine many dealers/stores would know much about it, it's been out of production for 120 years. However you might have luck contacting the London Sewing Machine Museum -- run by a machine dealer in Wimbledon. Contacts: By post: London Sewing Machine Museum, 308 Balham High Road, London SW17 7AABy phone: 020 8682 7916By Fax: 020 8767 4726By e-mail: wimbledonsewingmachinecoltd@btinternet.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted December 21, 2017 There used to be a belting company in town that had these. I remember going there & 2 of them were running at the same time time what a great sound they made.we do have some 5x5. Needles in stock Size #28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meswaine Report post Posted December 21, 2017 WOW.... both response are so helpful ! I will look into London Museum and I will order some needles from "Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines" Bob, Do you remember the name of the Belting Company ? I wonder if they would have a manual in some old folder in a back corner ? Thank you both. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrmCa Report post Posted December 21, 2017 This looks like a machine for doing fishtails on belts rather than zigzag. But I can only see one side of the drum near the needle bar from here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted December 21, 2017 Here's what I got on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 21, 2017 This is a Monster. One of the biggest machines Singer ever made. Bigger than a 6 class, 7 class , 8 class. Not as big as a 9 class which was THE largest machine Singer ever made. I would buy if I had it available 5-1and rebuild it just to have it. You will definitely need help moving it. Please get us more pics of it especially if you get it. I have an original parts list book to 5-1vto 5-5, 5-7, 5-10 to 5-11. Not the 5-9 however. Is this a zig-zag machine? glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yetibelle Report post Posted December 22, 2017 18 hours ago, shoepatcher said: This is a Monster. One of the biggest machines Singer ever made. Bigger than a 6 class, 7 class , 8 class. Not as big as a 9 class which was THE largest machine Singer ever made. I would buy if I had it available 5-1and rebuild it just to have it. You will definitely need help moving it. Please get us more pics of it especially if you get it. I have an original parts list book to 5-1vto 5-5, 5-7, 5-10 to 5-11. Not the 5-9 however. Is this a zig-zag machine? glenn This looks like an extended Class 7. I think the Class 8 is bigger than this? At least from looking at that picture. The largest machine is the 67-1 Class 8-8 monster> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted December 24, 2017 Singer only made about 40 some of these 67-1 machines. I have seen 2 of them in Ohio and they are monsters, bigger than a 5 class. Both machines are huge. The 5 class shown in the pictures has a S.D.A. on it which stood for Singer driving attachment. They were run on line shaft and the SDA is what you engaged the machine with on the drive belt. The 5-9 is indeed a big zigzag machine. The 8 class is smaller than the 5 class machine. Both are smaller than the 67-1. If you want to see the biggest machine Singer ever made, look up the 9-1 machine. That was truly a monster. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yetibelle Report post Posted December 26, 2017 I think if you saw a 9-1 in-person it would be very impressive, but it looks like a quilting frame rather than the traditional machine shape so it lacks in its overall "wow factor" from the Singer rendering. I wonder if any survived? It would be great to see an actual photo of one. It would be also great to see a 14k8, they looked fairly complicated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yetibelle said: I think if you saw a 9-1 in-person it would be very impressive, but it looks like a quilting frame rather than the traditional machine shape so it lacks in its overall "wow factor" from the Singer rendering. I wonder if any survived? It would be great to see an actual photo of one. It would be also great to see a 14k8, they looked fairly complicated. Edited December 26, 2017 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yetibelle Report post Posted December 26, 2017 WOW that's great. thanks for the find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted December 26, 2017 It raises the obvious question - what on earth would anyone do with a 5-9? (Besides look at it). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/26/2017 at 5:57 PM, dikman said: It raises the obvious question - what on earth would anyone do with a 5-9? (Besides look at it). Other than look, I guess can talk about it. Or at least type on a message board about sewing machines about it. Hope that helps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites