None of your beezwax!

[Jake907]

1 hour ago, Mjolnir said:

Potentially making one grocery bag out of many is pretty cool!

the pine pitch recipe is awesome!

PS Wow. now you've got me thinking. I remember climbing trees as a kid and that pine sap wouldn't wash off my hands I had to worry it off. Tough stuff.

 

Pine sap on E-bay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1lb-Natural-Rosin-Colophony-450g-Pure-Pine-Sap-Resin-Light-Yellow-Amber/253000850261?hash=item3ae8069b55:g:DmkAAOSwYGFU13mZ

bees wax, also on E-bay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pound-Pure-Beeswax-Yellow-Bees-Wax/120538931517?epid=1931413396&hash=item1c10ae213d:g:wD0AAOSwrklVBDPl

 

I've been wanting to try a tin cloth recipe that a friend gave me, gonna try it on a Carhartt jacket, because you know we have such balmy summers here.....40 degrees with wind and rain for a week, lol

1/2 pound wax

1/2 quart raw linseed oil

1/2 quart turpentine

1/2 cup pine tar 

melt together and apply to canvas. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by Jake907

[Sheilajeanne]

Jake, had to Google 'tin cloth'. Had never heard of it before. Wow, as my hubby used to say, 'It's a bad day when you don't learn anything new!"

It was invented in Alaska by a company that outfitted loggers: https://www.filson.com/tin-cloth.html

[Furthark]

2 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Jake, had to Google 'tin cloth'. Had never heard of it before. Wow, as my hubby used to say, 'It's a bad day when you don't learn anything new!"

It was invented in Alaska by a company that outfitted loggers: https://www.filson.com/tin-cloth.html

+1 for Filson. If you can afford them, they make top quality outdoor and work clothes.

[Jake907]

9 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Jake, had to Google 'tin cloth'. Had never heard of it before. Wow, as my hubby used to say, 'It's a bad day when you don't learn anything new!"

It was invented in Alaska by a company that outfitted loggers: https://www.filson.com/tin-cloth.html

I actually didn't know the history on it, thats cool, maybe I should google it too! LOL

7 hours ago, Furthark said:

+1 for Filson. If you can afford them, they make top quality outdoor and work clothes.

They do, and thats one of the reasons that I want to try this tin cloth recipe, because carhartt and others are a lot more affordable but close in quality, if they only made tin cloth items.... all you need is a cotton garment to start with and paint this mixture on it. 

 

Maybe @farmersracer could add something to this part of the conversation, I believe his bags are very similar to tin cloth, its basically waxed cotton.

[Mjolnir]

This is great stuff Jake! You are like Jeremiah Johnson.

[Jake907]

1 minute ago, Mjolnir said:

This is great stuff Jake! You are like Jeremiah Johnson.

ha! I wish! I am by no means a mountain man, just a hard workin country boy who happens to live in Alaska. yes I'm a bit of a gear junkie, but you have to be up here, because a good portion of money/time/effort/thought go into "how can I do this better next time?" this country does not suffer fools. And as a friend of mine is always telling me "you gotta be tough if you're gonna live in Alaska!" LOL

[Rockoboy]

On ‎2‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 9:08 AM, Jake907 said:

1/2 pound wax

1/2 quart raw linseed oil

1/2 quart turpentine

1/2 cup pine tar 

@Jake907 Is the turpentine used here, pure gum turpentine or regular "clean out paint brushes" turpentine?

[Jake907]

On 3/4/2018 at 3:38 PM, Rockoboy said:

@Jake907 Is the turpentine used here, pure gum turpentine or regular "clean out paint brushes" turpentine?

I wish I could tell you Rocko, the guy who gave me the recipe used the cleaning stuff I believe. He did a canvas jacket, and I had the opportunity to observe it in lots of different weather since we work together, it seemed to hold up pretty good. 

above I just posted the ratios, but there is a little more to the recipe. 

"Heat linseed oil and melt wax into oil. Double boiler. Remove the heat, add turpentine. Add optional (pine tar). Proportions aren't exact. More wax gives better protection and stiffer coat while more linseed oil offers less stiffness but less protection. Turpentine helps thin mixture but requires more time to air out smell. Unprocessed bees wax (originally calls for 80-20 beeswax-parafin) works fine. Filson recommends hanging treated clothes in very warm area for latter, more even coverage. Brush on warm using heat gun or blow dryer". 

Thats the best I could do with the hand written note. Good luck man, let me know how it turns out for you.

[Rockoboy]

4 hours ago, Jake907 said:

Thats the best I could do with the hand written note. Good luck man, let me know how it turns out for you.

HMMM thanx for the information. I think I will continue with my initial direction.

I am thinking of the following, to see how it works out ...

Beeswax, lanolin, neatsfoot oil - equal parts.

25% by volume of pure gum turpentine.

Anybody got any thoughts for or against any of my ingredients?

[Matt S]

On 3/2/2018 at 1:08 AM, Jake907 said:

1/2 pound wax

1/2 quart raw linseed oil

1/2 quart turpentine

1/2 cup pine tar 

melt together and apply to canvas. 

On 2/27/2018 at 10:27 PM, Mjolnir said:

 

I made a few lb of this years ago, minus the pine tar. It's fantastic -- not only to reproof my tin cruiser (which still stands up on its own on cold days) but it's also great for lighter weight waxed cotton, and for gun stocks and tool handles.

I wasn't sure if I had to use real turps or could use the substitute we call white spirit (a petroleum distillate) but I figured for the little extra cost involved I might as well use the real deal. Certainly smells better. I used what remained as part of my oilcloth making experiments.