Members DreamFactory Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, veedub3 said: There is no mention anywhere in this thread of anyone saying they were copying his design. Oh please, if that's the case then everything anyone of us has ever made is copying someone's work, which isn't the case here. Where in this thread did anyone say anything about reverse engineering? If this was an original Idea or concept I could understand why someone would get upset, but there are so many images in old leather working books and on google of stitching ponys attached to tables, whose to say this guy didn't get his inspiration form one of those. So does the same apply to him because he made one "similar" to others already on the market or currently being used? This type of design first landed on my radar years ago and it is made by Sheridan called the Colt Stitcher. I decided then I wanted one - but a modified one for my specific needs. I forgot about that until I saw another one clamped to a table last year, and it wasn't even this one, it was the one made by Elfita. Because I have a shop full of tools, and the skills to make one, that is what I decided to do. For the last 3+ years I have simply been laying my stitching pony on it's side and using an Irwin quick clamp to clamp it to my work table. Last year when I saw the Elfita clamp I decided it was time to upgrade that. So I opened up my design software and started engineering/designing one - I just haven't finished it. (a process which is very different from reverse engineering btw.) Karina The Elfita pony maker is my friend. (korean) My pony is a structural difference. My Pony's strength is in the fold. (Portable) I'm glad to hear that you are inspired by Elfita pony. I wish you good work. Lee Ho Myoung Quote
Members charon Posted March 22, 2018 Members Report Posted March 22, 2018 I also think @DreamFactory has the right to be concerned and also was totally polite about it, you shouldn't just copy this really nice pony (kudos to DreamFactory for the really nice item), but I disagree with @Webicons about the Lean and Port wallets. Something like the Lean wallet is neither innovative design (it is in fact lean, because it's just a piece of leather wrapped around 3 times) nor something that could be patented. Even I do these things as a minimal wallet without even knowing there's someone else calling it a "Lean (tm) wallet", although I use different material and are still able to cut and make holes by hand and not with a laser. It's like claiming you invented the card slots for a bifold wallet, the possibilities for designs are limited and thus are doomed to be "copied". But that's just my $0.02 But I have a slightly offtopic question to @DreamFactory, just because you mentioned it: Is Elfita still doing business? I love their tools and would like to order some, however they didn't respond to my mails and since you know them personally... Andy Quote
Members Tugadude Posted March 23, 2018 Members Report Posted March 23, 2018 This is the first post in the thread...clearly mentions reverse engineering. FWIW. Members 105 posts Location:Philadelphia Interests:wallets, bags Leatherwork Specialty:none yet Interested in learning about:camera bags How did you find leatherworker.net?:forum search Report post Posted March 12 Little King Goods posted this stitching pony on his IG and had to order one. It came from Korea in about 2 weeks a little pricey for what it is, it is very nice and very portable. I am going to put some leather on the jaws love this design I think I might have to reverse engineer this in walnut or oak. Quote
Members Tugadude Posted March 23, 2018 Members Report Posted March 23, 2018 The beauty of this design is the fact that the pony swivels and turns to accomodate the work. With a typical horse or pony, you have to sometimes do gymnastics with the project in order to get a good angle to stitch. Not so with this design. If you have not, click on the link and look carefully at the photos. Quote
Members Masonjk38 Posted August 8, 2019 Members Report Posted August 8, 2019 On 3/21/2018 at 5:18 AM, seagiant said: Hi LOL! Lee you are talking to Americans here. We have invented or improved more things than the rest of the World put together! While I appreciate your workmanship, it is nothing that has not been done many times before in this country! Good luck with your endevours, but this ain't Rocket Science, just shop work! Actually the Asian world has been around much longer than America has been a country, please read https://www.history.com/topics/korea/south-korea, and as far as inventions many products you think were invented by the US were actually invented by Koreans and licensed to US companies like Apple and/or stolen by the US. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Korean_inventions_and_discoveries. Check your facts before you do your bashing. from retired history teacher. Quote
Members mrwatch Posted August 8, 2019 Members Report Posted August 8, 2019 Pinterest has a page showing 93 different stitching pony images and many with dimensions to make your own. I have not tried one yet. The one shown here appears to be made of laminated wood, so it should be strong. I like it. Quote
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