Members Leonguaranipy Posted May 7, 2018 Members Report Posted May 7, 2018 Hi! Ive been checking out sewing machines for a couple of weeks now. I have found out that for a variety of work you actually need more than one machine if you intend on working efficiently. I was wondering if its possible to buy a cylinder arm compound feed machine with a flat bed addon to obtain the benefits of both types of machines. I do handtooled wallets and backpacks mainly so cylinder arm would be great for backpacks and the flatbed addon for the wallets. Cobra has some nice flatbed adjustments for their machines but ive been told the Class 4 and 3 are heavy duty and will tear up my leather. I use veg tanned but none of my work is very thick since I skive the edges so no heavy duty required. Thanks for your time reading this your counsel is very much appreciated PD: what happened to all the beatiful classic sewing machines? How come they became so techy and ugly Quote
Members dikman Posted May 7, 2018 Members Report Posted May 7, 2018 Check Uwe's posts on here, he makes some nice add-on tables. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Techsew Ron Posted May 7, 2018 Report Posted May 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Leonguaranipy said: Hi! Ive been checking out sewing machines for a couple of weeks now. I have found out that for a variety of work you actually need more than one machine if you intend on working efficiently. I was wondering if its possible to buy a cylinder arm compound feed machine with a flat bed addon to obtain the benefits of both types of machines. I do handtooled wallets and backpacks mainly so cylinder arm would be great for backpacks and the flatbed addon for the wallets. Cobra has some nice flatbed adjustments for their machines but ive been told the Class 4 and 3 are heavy duty and will tear up my leather. I use veg tanned but none of my work is very thick since I skive the edges so no heavy duty required. Thanks for your time reading this your counsel is very much appreciated PD: what happened to all the beatiful classic sewing machines? How come they became so techy and ugly For sewing backpacks you'll want a light/medium cylinder walking foot machine, you'll find many of them available from the advertisers on here (banners at the top of the page). Many of us sell flatbed attachments for these types of machines in order to convert it to a flatbed machine for wallets and belts. The big heavy duty 441-style machines would be overkill for thinner leather and not the most appropriate machine for your products. Ron Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
Members Sheilajeanne Posted May 7, 2018 Members Report Posted May 7, 2018 Leong, just have to say that is one BEAUTIFUL backpack! Lovely detailing, lovely carving and stitching... Quote
Members Leonguaranipy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said: Leong, just have to say that is one BEAUTIFUL backpack! Lovely detailing, lovely carving and stitching... Thank you Sheila glad you liked it you can check out my other products at instagram @mezzileather 8 hours ago, Techsew Ron said: For sewing backpacks you'll want a light/medium cylinder walking foot machine, you'll find many of them available from the advertisers on here (banners at the top of the page). Many of us sell flatbed attachments for these types of machines in order to convert it to a flatbed machine for wallets and belts. The big heavy duty 441-style machines would be overkill for thinner leather and not the most appropriate machine for your products. Ron Im looking at the Cowboy 227r. Who could I ask about a flatbed attachment? Quote
Members bullmoosepaddles Posted May 7, 2018 Members Report Posted May 7, 2018 @Leonguaranipy The dealer you purchase the machine from. Or as mentioned above Uwe, have read great reviews on his tables. Quote
Members DrmCa Posted May 8, 2018 Members Report Posted May 8, 2018 On 5/7/2018 at 10:39 AM, Techsew Ron said: For sewing backpacks you'll want a light/medium cylinder walking foot machine The big heavy duty 441-style machines would be overkill for thinner leather and not the most appropriate machine for your products. Ron Precisely. The machine in my signature - Pfaff 335, or Adler 67, or many more of the kind which take needles from size 14 to size 20 and thread up to 138. These will match your stated purpose. I can work with anything from lightest leather for gloves and shirts, to latigo belts. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Leonguaranipy Posted May 8, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 8, 2018 8 hours ago, DrmCa said: Precisely. The machine in my signature - Pfaff 335, or Adler 67, or many more of the kind which take needles from size 14 to size 20 and thread up to 138. These will match your stated purpose. I can work with anything from lightest leather for gloves and shirts, to latigo belts. But the Adler 67 is a flatbed cant do my backpacks with it. Pfaff 335 looks amazing, with a nice flatbed attachment should work. Pfaff doesnt seem like a chinese brand. I was looking at the Cowboy 227r. Would you recommend spending more for a not-chinese machine? Quote
Members DrmCa Posted May 9, 2018 Members Report Posted May 9, 2018 Apologies, there is Adler with the similar model number which is a cylinder arm. 167? 69? I can't remember. Virtually the same as Pfaff, but belt-driven vs. shaft-driven, and with a knee press I believe vs. pedal lift. Yes, I'd recommend a used Pfaff over a new Chinese clone any time of the day. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Silverd Posted May 11, 2018 Members Report Posted May 11, 2018 Uwe. Honestly the final word for cylinder arm to flat bed converstion. Just bought one of his and wow! Really well designed and made. This guy has it together. The conversion table that came with my 5100 is very rough. Technically it can be installed and used but its fraught with gaps sharp edges and the method of attachment to the table (not the cylinder) makes it time consuming to attach and remove. Quite honestly a joke. Silverd Quote
bikermutt07 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Posted May 11, 2018 As far as I know Uwe has only built tables for the 441 clones, not the smaller machines. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Sonydaze Posted May 12, 2018 Members Report Posted May 12, 2018 Uwe makes a very well designed table for the Pfaff 335. I have one from him and it is great. Quote http://www.bound2please.com Sewing machines: 3 - Sunstar 590BL, Artisan Toro 3200, Juki LK-1900HS, Juki DDL-8500-7, Juki DDL-5550N, Pfaff 138-6/21, Pfaff 546-H3, Pfaff 335-H3, Adler 221-76, Singer 144WVS33, Singer 29K-51, Siruba 747B
bikermutt07 Posted May 12, 2018 Report Posted May 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Sonydaze said: Uwe makes a very well designed table for the Pfaff 335. I have one from him and it is great. Apologies, I hadn't heard about that one. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Sonydaze Posted May 12, 2018 Members Report Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, bikermutt07 said: Apologies, I hadn't heard about that one. Please don't feel bad, we all try to comment to the best of our knowledge. Quote http://www.bound2please.com Sewing machines: 3 - Sunstar 590BL, Artisan Toro 3200, Juki LK-1900HS, Juki DDL-8500-7, Juki DDL-5550N, Pfaff 138-6/21, Pfaff 546-H3, Pfaff 335-H3, Adler 221-76, Singer 144WVS33, Singer 29K-51, Siruba 747B
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