Members jimi Posted May 25, 2018 Members Report Posted May 25, 2018 I Agree with dikman, i would say the best solution would be to weld it. at one point you are going to have to unscrew and tighten up that corner again if you ever disassemble the stand so a weld would seem better. Quote
CowboyBob Posted May 25, 2018 Report Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) Yes,that can be welded JB would never hold.You can either have it brazed or electric welded. OR you could patch it with a piece of steel plate underneath it,matching the contour of the casting ,drill some holes & use some small bolts & nuts (it won't be look pretty) but will work if done correctly Edited May 25, 2018 by CowboyBob Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members Aven Posted May 25, 2018 Author Members Report Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, dikman said: Ouch! Is there any substantial stress at that point? If not JBWeld will certainly give a neat finish. Any chance of fitting a supporting bar (or two) underneath the area? They could be glued on to give a bit of support or drilled through and screwed on. Obviously welding would the be the ideal solution - if you know someone who can do it properly! As far as I can tell, there isn't that much stress, unless the base is warped. The gap isn't as big as I've pictured. It fits together rather nicely. There a few crumbs missing. My guess is someone dropped it on the point. 9 hours ago, jimi said: I Agree with dikman, i would say the best solution would be to weld it. at one point you are going to have to unscrew and tighten up that corner again if you ever disassemble the stand so a weld would seem better. 9 hours ago, CowboyBob said: Yes,that can be welded JB would never hold.You can either have it brazed or electric welded. OR you could patch it with a piece of steel plate underneath it,matching the contour of the casting ,drill some holes & use some small bolts & nuts (it won't be look pretty) but will work if done correctly So welding it is. Now to find someone who can do it and doesn't want an arm and a leg. I don't want to spend more on the welding than I did for the sewing machine. Thanks for the input. Edited May 25, 2018 by Aven Quote
Members Gunnarsson Posted May 25, 2018 Members Report Posted May 25, 2018 In my hands, that would be a brazing job. Cast iron has a few problems that makes it harder and in some cases impossible to weld (you don't know if it's a weldable cast iron alloy before you've tried), so you don't want some amateur with no knowlege and experience messing with it. Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted May 27, 2018 Members Report Posted May 27, 2018 Nickle better to weld cast iron with. But you have to know what you are doing glenn Quote
DonInReno Posted June 9, 2018 Report Posted June 9, 2018 Brazing won't be as strong as welding, but it's pretty quick and easy - much better than jb weld. Even silver brazed with the stuff used by hvac techs would look good, but be warned most hvac guys are not used to working with cast iron and it needs to be preheated to avoid cracks. Quote
Members Gunnarsson Posted June 23, 2018 Members Report Posted June 23, 2018 Brazing can actually be stronger than the cast iron itself. I've got old oxygen/acetylene welding handbooks from the 1930s-60s (when O/A was the go to method) where they describe a cast iron brazing test. You build up a "wart" of brazing bronze, about ½" diameter and height if I recall, on a cast iron plate. Once it's done and cooled down you hit the wart from the side with a hammer until it breaks loose, if you've done it right the brazing bronze will take a layer of iron with it, i.e. the bronze doesn't come loose, rather the cast iron breaks under it. I'm sure there are some methods to weld cast iron with a stronger result, but what's the point? There's still cast iron right there next to the weld ready to break if you overload it again. Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted June 24, 2018 Members Report Posted June 24, 2018 Best to weld cast iron with a nickel rod. Stronger but the welder must have so skill to do it. glenn Quote
Members Gunnarsson Posted June 24, 2018 Members Report Posted June 24, 2018 Nickle rod might be the easiest way to weld it (a good reason that has made the method popular), but there are many options and that one might not always be the best. Unlike a brazed or O/A weld with actual cast iron filler the usual MMA nickel rod w/o preheat and slow cooling welding will cause the cast iron around the weld to cool down so quick it becomes white cast iron (instead of grey) with a high amount of iron carbide making it very hard and more brittle. Quote
CowboyBob Posted June 29, 2018 Report Posted June 29, 2018 Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
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