what machine to buy

[RockyAussie]

10 hours ago, aguwa said:

I figure the close by help offers from him might just come in handy , then back to work get some more play money put aside and get the CB4500 they say the 1508 takes thread from #46-#138 the 1508H goes from #69--#207 the cowboy starts at #138  so I thought the 1508 was the choice

Just to let you know the Cowboy CB 4500 according to the page on http://www.tolindsewmach.com/cb4500.html

states this below

Needle: 7x3 or 794: #18-#27

Thread Sizes: #69 - #415

I haven't tried taking the thread that thin myself as I have a few other machines that can handle that size fine such as Pfaff 335, an Adler 69 and a stack of others, but I would think maybe have a talk with Bob there first myself. I would still think a cylinder machine would be a better starting off machine myself. 

[aguwa]

Thank`s everyone that`s some good info I will strongly think about all that on Tuesday when I`m at local shop  unless  , Hey Wizcrafts sounds like you might have everything I`m looking for.For sale that could be shipped to Wakefield MA.01880 USA ? I`m not sure on the policies here can I give you my phone number to call me and talk about what you might have ?

[Wizcrafts]

15 minutes ago, aguwa said:

Hey Wizcrafts sounds like you might have everything I`m looking for.For sale that could be shipped to Wakefield MA.01880 USA ? I`m not sure on the policies here can I give you my phone number to call me and talk about what you might have ?

I'm not sure what you mean. I don't sell sewing machines, other than a couple I have used in my shop and want to replace. I make leather things and sew for a living (when I'm not onstage playing Country Music).

You may have gotten the wrong idea because I posted a link to the Juki LU-1508NH, which you were referring to as the 1508H. This is a high end, expensive professional sewing machine for production use. It has more clearance in the hook that allows it to sew with #207 thread on top and bottom. It also uses a slightly longer System 190 needle that allows it to have a 2mm longer up/down stroke than the DNU-1541, and a correspondingly higher foot lift. This makes it capable of sewing up to 7/16" of material. They also have true rectangular feed dog motion, which is unusual in walking foot machines.

Note: some dealers modify their LU-1508NH to use the standard System 135x16 and 135x17 needles, which reduces the sewing thickness back to 3/8 inch. Ask before you buy.

If you don't expect to sew over 3/8 of an inch using #138 thread, any modern walking foot machine will do just a good a job at half the price, or less. If you anticipate needing a higher sewing capacity or thicker thread, these machines won't do the job.

[aguwa]

Yes I got confused lot of hours on boat been fishing tired  thought you were talking about you sorry lol thank`s for all your help 

[Wizcrafts]

7 minutes ago, aguwa said:

Yes I got confused lot of hours on boat been fishing tired  thought you were talking about you sorry lol thank`s for all your help 

Some of the dealers who advertise or assist on this forum can get you a Juki LU-1508NH and set it up for your requirements. Maybe even find a clone that costs less!

[CowBoyOUTLAW]

On 2018/6/8 at 8:46 AM, aguwa said:

Hello everyone thank`s for letting me join I live in wakefield ma usa . I have  always tinkerd with leather, basic dog collars with rivets anyway I decided I am going to get a leather machine , I plan on sewing heavy leather bags #2 Latigo leather 7-8 oz also shooting slings out of 9-10 0z. Latigo leather and such  and bags out of softer leather as well also heavy double layer veg tan belts out of belt blanks , also wallets and what ever else I can come up with , I do have a singer year 1948 model 201-2 for lighter stuff so my question is do I get the juki 1508N or the juki 1508 H  these are the two machines I picked out after a couple of days on internet  1508 goes from #46 - #138 and the 1508H goes from #69 - #207 thread  were do I need to be I`m leaning on the 1508H but not sure if thats just the man in me lol , I will probably be getting a cowboy 3200 or 4500 in future , so  now you know what I have what I want next and were I`m gonna end , Any suggestions that would help me make my mind up would be appreciated

Juki 1508H cannot help you reach perfect stitch quality, if you are to use V207 thread. For the thread over V138, a Barrel shuttle hook type machine is almost necessary. 

[aguwa]

 thanks CowboyOutlaw  I had a chance to see them in action just got home and on the way was saying to myself all the stuff everyone has been saying and I think I`m gonna get a cowboy 4500 tomorrow and get a older industrial machine for the heavy weight canvas bags and light leather