Is it a good choice? Seiko CH8B cylinder bed

[Ehgreen]

10 hours ago, dikman said:

I couldn't find a huge amount of info on it but the specs I did find indicate it's pretty close to a 441-type machine - which is heavy duty! It might be a bit too much for what you're doing. You didn't mention what size thread you're using.

The RRP of $8700 is really pretty irrelevant in this case, as it's only worth what someone is prepared to pay, and considering a new Cowboy 4500 is about $4500 here in Oz if he hasn't sold it in 3 months then it's obvious that he's asking too much. It's the sort of machine I'd like, but not at that price. Plus it's got a clutch motor (!) which to me is a negative factor (as in more expense to fit a servo).

I see, I will probably wait for something else more suitable, Thank you for the help.

[Ehgreen]

7 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

Not sure where in QLD you are but I have a 441 type machine here as well as a stack of other probably more suitable size machines you are welcome to come and try out and see what they do if you want. I am near to Rockhampton. I suspect the size machine that would be more suitable for your needs would be in the 335 style but would not be sure without seeing some pictures of the type of stuff you want to make. 0.3-1.2cm leather is an extreme variation and I doubt you would often need to go that thick on the type of products you mention.

Hi Rocky, I live in Brisbane so it is a bit far from Rockhampton, do you have a link to the machines you are selling? I would love to have a look. Thanks.

[Sheilajeanne]

33 minutes ago, Ehgreen said:

Hi Rocky, I live in Brisbane so it is a bit far from Rockhampton, do you have a link to the machines you are selling? I would love to have a look. Thanks.

Psst....he didn't say he was SELLING them...he said you were welcome to come and try them out!  

[Wizcrafts]

5 hours ago, Ehgreen said:

Does 441 mean Juki441?

Yes, that's exactly the Mother machine that is being cloned. The actual Juki model code is TSC-441. This machine is stlll being produced in Japan.

[brmax]

A familar discussion to bring up is thread size, choice and if your bags need or if you want a bigger looking thread. 

The leather thickness you mention sounds like a required choice for that machine capability. A lot of the thick stuff in that dimension if on just strap attachments it may be possible to use a smaller machine. 

Though with a smaller heavy upholstery machine a thread of 138 or under will be the normal. 

 

Good day

Floyd

[dikman]

The Cowboy dealers here also have some slightly lighter duty machines (3200, for example) that would probably be better suited to what you're doing and are, I think, within the price range you're looking at. It would have the advantage of being new and come with a servo. Steve's Industrial Leather Sewing is also located in Qld, so could be handy for you.

[Uwe]

6 hours ago, Ehgreen said:

Does 441 mean Juki441?

Yes, "441" is shorthand for a class of machines that includes the original Juki TSC-441 and the many copies, clones, and close variations of that design.

[RockyAussie]

9 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Psst....he didn't say he was SELLING them...he said you were welcome to come and try them out!  

That is correct I am not selling any machines but it could be worth coming to see the various machines like splitters and skivers and all sorts of sewing machines. I do see many people buy a less than useful machine for their needs when starting out and a good understanding of the type of machines that would be best for the product you want to produce can save a lot of money and frustration. Some pictures of products can help but to actually feel and discuss how they are made is a real worthwhile advantage. If you check out wildharryaustralia on instagram you can see some of the wide range of products we produce. I cant seem to put a link to it on here I'm sorry.

Brian

[Ehgreen]

34 minutes ago, RockyAussie said:

That is correct I am not selling any machines but it could be worth coming to see the various machines like splitters and skivers and all sorts of sewing machines. I do see many people buy a less than useful machine for their needs when starting out and a good understanding of the type of machines that would be best for the product you want to produce can save a lot of money and frustration. Some pictures of products can help but to actually feel and discuss how they are made is a real worthwhile advantage. If you check out wildharryaustralia on instagram you can see some of the wide range of products we produce. I cant seem to put a link to it on here I'm sorry.

Brian

Oh noooooo, I am so embarrassed!

I have sent you my contact info, pls check.

[Ehgreen]

Thanks you all for answering my questions, it’s so informative. I am appreciated.

now there is another machine Pfaff 335, I did some research and luckily the madel seems to be quite right to my needs. 

Pls let me know what you think?

 

 

 

 

I know it’s a clutch motor, but the price is really nice.