List of Youtube Leathercraft channels

Thanks for putting this together. I wasn't aware of all of those channels. I watch some of those and I also find Harry Rodgers to be helpful. His channel is here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUydSC4GgiVQbcpjQTR_zQw

chrisash · December 23, 2018

Plus Harry Rogers

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=harry+rogers

JLSleather · December 23, 2018

13 hours ago, Caesar said:

Why move it to the ads section?

I haven't watched them all. And I'm not going to. But that's largely what "videos" are -- ads.

Since there were 2 mentions of Harry Rogers back to back, I clicked over there. Sure enough ... "just to be quite transparent about it .." he says, his "video" is "sponsored" by somebody making "leather burnishers". Now, while this guy AND the guy making the "burnishers" (which is a motor with a piece of wood with grooves in it) might BOTH be friendly fellows, the desired outcome is sell you this "burnisher". I'm not even suggesting that somebody SHOULDN'T go buy a couple of them, maybe an extra for the garage too. But cut the crap... it's an AD. A commercial. Marketing.

Not my site ... and in the end it makes no difference to me where or what section to post in -- just a suggestion.

Caesar · December 23, 2018

48 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

I haven't watched them all. And I'm not going to. But that's largely what "videos" are -- ads.

Since there were 2 mentions of Harry Rogers back to back, I clicked over there. Sure enough ... "just to be quite transparent about it .." he says, his "video" is "sponsored" by somebody making "leather burnishers". Now, while this guy AND the guy making the "burnishers" (which is a motor with a piece of wood with grooves in it) might BOTH be friendly fellows, the desired outcome is sell you this "burnisher". I'm not even suggesting that somebody SHOULDN'T go buy a couple of them, maybe an extra for the garage too. But cut the crap... it's an AD. A commercial. Marketing.

Not my site ... and in the end it makes no difference to me where or what section to post in -- just a suggestion.

I can understand not liking certain people for shamelessly plugging products. Feel free not to watch those that offend you. Or in your case, I guess just don't watch any videos at all.

I posted it because I thought that perhaps the list could be of use to someone, and maybe they could suggest some channels that I'd not seen before.

I enjoy seeing how others do things. To get a different perspective. If someone spends a few seconds trying to put some food on the table, so be it. If it seemed excessive I'd probably not watch them again.

JLSleather · December 23, 2018

Not liking certain people? No idea where you got that ... cuz I didn't say that. All I said was if there's nothing "wrong" with selling, then why not just call it that?

chrisash · December 23, 2018

But is not your JLS leather rather than your name on the forum and the advert for the sewing machines not also adverts?

JLSleather · December 23, 2018

:lol:

No, it isn't. But you seem to miss the distinction.

When people ask me what machine they should get, I tell 'em you're better off asking Bob (Toledo Ind). Need clicker dies made? Sandy does that very well (Int'l Die Co). Wanting "dummy" mags to mold clip carriers? Email Wayne (on this forum). And I have more.

But a referral for somebody who did a good job for you is hardly an "ad". In fact, I don't have any patience at all for those who WON'T refer someone who did them a good service.

STILL, some things are ads, and I don't mind ads at all. So why not call it that? Why the ruse? Is the product so much like every other that it needs THE HYPE?

Tinkerton · December 24, 2018

To go back to the original topic, I really like Serge Volken https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBigy52

RMB Custom Leather · December 24, 2018

Thank you for taking the time to put the list together

Scoutmom103 · December 24, 2018

Thank you for putting this together and sharing it with us.

Sebasopg15 · September 10, 2019

Thank you for posting this. I followed three of the channels, now I got a whole bunch more to learn from and expand my knowledge!

TonyRV2 · September 10, 2019

Thanks for posting. I do already follow many of these and will likely add a few more after looking through some of the others. And from what I've seen...most are NOT advertisements for anything but a good lesson in leathercraft.

JLSleather · September 10, 2019

Hey, guys... I'm SO excited about this new opportunity I just had to make this video to 'share it' with y'all ... :rofl:

How'sat go about 'protesting" too much?

Advertise:

verb (used with object), ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing.

to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it:to advertise a new brand of toothpaste.

to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc.:to advertise a reward.

Edited September 10, 2019 by JLSleather

toxo · September 10, 2019

If you want to see an absolute genius with a bit of leather and a sewing machine check this guy out. Ya know those two colour seats you get in Ferraris etc ......

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw_8PUaXqvjSq3p1lYouXzQ

TonyRV2 · September 10, 2019

2 hours ago, JLSleather said:

Hey, guys... I'm SO excited about this new opportunity I just had to make this video to 'share it' with y'all ...

How'sat go about 'protesting" too much?

Advertise:

verb (used with object), ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing.

to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it:to advertise a new brand of toothpaste.

to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc.:to advertise a reward.

Gee....thanks for point that out to all of us. Now we all care. lmao

mikesc · September 10, 2019

When I scroll down the thread ( any thread here ), the only ads I see are the ones ( 3 ) in your "sig", each time that you post Jeff 5 ads , ( 3 per sig, 5 posts so far ) ..aren't "referrals"..Those are ads..I personally have little to no problem with them* :) ..I'm an ex ad man ( nearly 10 years freelance copywriter and creative ad artist, videos, TV, press, the works )..But you might want to think about you being the pot calling other people's kettles black..

I'm not all all religious ( atheist ), don't know if you are .. but Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1 to 5. would seem kind of appropriate.

I personally ( and have said so here ) think that there are far too many copy cat videos out there..but seriously, if videos( which on youtube will always have ads** ) bother you that much..just don't look ..some people here like to watch them.Why insist on raining on their parade each time the subject comes up.

**no script is your friend..watch youtube with no ads.

I don't see the ads here ..only the ones in "sigs"..I wouldn't be buying from any of the advertisers anyway, so it saves on Johanna'a bandwidth, but..When I have read some of the help that some of the advertisers ( including Toledo ) have given over the years here, I'd "refer" members from the USA to them, if they ask..I have done so, like I "refer" people to College sewing, or to arbalet12..But ads for businesses other than the posters own site in sigs..that is very "in your face"..*personally feels like I'm being spammed a little...Visually it is jarring, and irrelevant to the subject of most ( if not all threads )..In particular I can't block your "sig with ads in" without blocking you..and you frequently post interesting comments..so I don't want to block you..
My 2cts :)

ps..Never have understood why some forum software allows one to "block" people..how is anyone going to understand replies if they "block" certain posters..seems a very childish option, fingers in ears "I can't hear you" type of thing..

Not Johanna's fault, the software has it built in..I don't know if it can be disabled easily..I'll have to test a local copy of the software to see.

Just realised, I could block the images in the sig without blocking the poster, I'll have to write a script to do so and add it into firefox or my hosts file ( it isn't called that on linux, but that is what most people might know it as ) ..Opera ( now Vivaldi ) will allow one to block images with just a click, but my FF already has some of my scripts running..Or..People could just quit putting images of any kind, ads or otherwise, in their sigs, and give everyone's ,( including the non programmers ), eyes a rest.

Edited September 10, 2019 by mikesc

JLSleather · September 10, 2019

Yikes, am I replying here again?@!

I did start to look through those videos -- certainly WILLING to find the one NOT selling something. After the first 10 or so, I hadn't found any, so I quit looking. One I ran into accidentally since it came up after one of these (not on the list) actually goes so far as to say "I got this idea from this OTHER guys video, so here's something you can by from my site!" ROFL Pudgy little soft boy, so no surprise there.

Makes no difference to me HOW many ads exist.. don't matter to me if they're posted HERE (not my site = not my problem). I simply said... if you're going to have ADS, then why the refusal to CALL it that?

Hahn's Atelier said I can download something for free for 5 days (don't know what dates he was referring to) then after that I could buy on etsy.
Don Gonzalez (whose work is nice, and who does most things the same way I do) will "teach" me a class. For $125 (online).
Paul Zalesak showed me his new CNC lathe, including the coolant system. And offered to sell me some swivel knife blades he makes.
Makesupply wanted to wish me well for the new year. And give me a link where I can buy "kits" of precut parts with thread included.
And "stock n barrel".. well - I really should just leave THAT one alone That certainly was as much as I could take.

So I'm givin them [yet another] mention. Total Jeff investment required = 0. :dunno:

Those who have it figured out are fine. The only ones "sucked in" are the new, or those who don't know any better. They're the only ones I'm talking to anyway - not looking for any "partners". My only regard is that those who don't already know better might think that some bad leather and cheap parlor tricks is the way leather is SUPPOSED to go

As for the "signature".. those ARE referrals. I get asked fairly frequently ON THIS SITE where to get a "maker mark" made, or what kind of sewing machine..., or where to have dies made. Since I'm not the sewing machine guy (I get by, and that's about all) best advice I can give them is "call Bob". And Alex (AM Leathercraft) is the one I trusted to make MY logo stamps and he proved I was right to do so. And Sandy makes nice, accurate, sturdy clicker dies. Are they the ONLY ones - hardly. But they are quite good at what they do. But I don't get anything from those referrals other than the knowledge that I sent people who were interested to people who were capable. Im not selling anything there. But if I WAS selling something I would SAY that.

I turned down the signature a bit. If any or all of those suppliers would prefer to be removed, just a message away - no problem.

Edited September 10, 2019 by JLSleather
sig

mason1800 · September 10, 2019

1 hour ago, JLSleather said:

Yikes, am I replying here again?@!

I did start to look through those videos -- certainly WILLING to find the one NOT selling something. After the first 10 or so, I hadn't found any, so I quit looking. One I ran into accidentally since it came up after one of these (not on the list) actually goes so far as to say "I got this idea from this OTHER guys video, so here's something you can by from my site!" ROFL Pudgy little soft boy, so no surprise there.

Makes no difference to me HOW many ads exist.. don't matter to me if they're posted HERE (not my site = not my problem). I simply said... if you're going to have ADS, then why the refusal to CALL it that?

Hahn's Atelier said I can download something for free for 5 days (don't know what dates he was referring to) then after that I could buy on etsy.

Don Gonzalez (whose work is nice, and who does most things the same way I do) will "teach" me a class. For $125 (online).

Paul Zalesak showed me his new CNC lathe, including the coolant system. And offered to sell me some swivel knife blades he makes.

Makesupply wanted to wish me well for the new year. And give me a link where I can buy "kits" of precut parts with thread included.

And "stock n barrel".. well - I really should just leave THAT one alone That certainly was as much as I could take.

So I'm givin them [yet another] mention. Total Jeff investment required = 0.

Those who have it figured out are fine. The only ones "sucked in" are the new, or those who don't know any better. They're the only ones I'm talking to anyway - not looking for any "partners". My only regard is that those who don't already know better might think that some bad leather and cheap parlor tricks is the way leather is SUPPOSED to go

As for the "signature".. those ARE referrals. I get asked fairly frequently ON THIS SITE where to get a "maker mark" made, or what kind of sewing machine..., or where to have dies made. Since I'm not the sewing machine guy (I get by, and that's about all) best advice I can give them is "call Bob". And Alex (AM Leathercraft) is the one I trusted to make MY logo stamps and he proved I was right to do so. And Sandy makes nice, accurate, sturdy clicker dies. Are they the ONLY ones - hardly. But they are quite good at what they do. But I don't get anything from those referrals other than the knowledge that I sent people who were interested to people who were capable. Im not selling anything there. But if I WAS selling something I would SAY that.

I turned down the signature a bit. If any or all of those suppliers would prefer to be removed, just a message away - no problem.

@JLSleather And where can I find Sandy's info??? Im looking to buy some nice metal clicker dies. If you dont mind. Oh and thanks for the Field notes /Passport cover a few years back... lol

mikesc · September 10, 2019

Jeff.."a referral" is when you post ( using words , not images ) in reply to someone who posts saying they are looking for "X" .."Hey this guy does a pretty good X"..I bought one and it I recommend them..

An image ( 3 of them) in a "sig", so that every post (even one about "sewing thread" etc ) is a different beast, it is an in your face ad..( like sign on your lawn, that you take with you when you go to visit ) even if you are getting nothing in return..It is like the guy in the bar who no matter what the subject under discussion, always has to tell you who he votes for..What kinda car he drives, What church, mosque, synagogue..."whatever" he goes ( or does not go ) to..Or worse still..each time he speaks, he holds up 3 banners or signboards at the end when he is done speaking."Eat at Joe's" , "Drive Ford", "Wear Levi's".. ;)

There's ( IMO ) worse..I've seen sig images here ( not ads ) that are bigger than most folks post pictures of machines or what they make*..Makes you ( well me at least ) wonder what "lack" they are trying to compensate for ( like "I've got a big car / gun / sig.... so I also have a big....really" * ) makes 'em need to be noticed.

* Girls rarely do this, seems to be a "guy thing"..for some guys.

ps..I've not seen any of the videos linked to..But they must have ads, they are on youtube....I block youtube, Google whatever, and all other tracking from wherever it is watching when I'm here..or elsewhere..Gets you cleaner search results if you ever use Google , if you block it ( including G analytics ) everywhere..

* For people who are on metered bandwidth deals ( like many in the USA, especially on cell phone deals ) images in "sigs" take up far more bandwidth ( cost them more to see, and they can't block them ) than reading text..a 10kb image is about equivalent in data transfer ( bandwidth that they pay for ) to an entire page of close written text..Plus..it slows their page loading down if they are not on 4G or 5G...even if they are surfing with normal images blocked.

Btw..if it seems like I'm getting at you Jeff, nope :) Been on the "web" since before BBS days , before usenet, compuserve groups etc..IME ( "greybeard" ) ..unnecessary images ( avatars and images in sigs etc ) are one of those things that I try to avoid..IMO they don't add anything to fora..relevant images certainly do..but avatars and images in sigs..they are just unnecessary "noise".

Edited September 10, 2019 by mikesc
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